Can VHS tapes still be used for speedruns here?

2008-11-01 11:07:32 am

Mr. Twishall

Reading the rules/FAQ, it says that the "recommended method" is to use a DVD recorder, but it never forbids the use of tapes. Are these still allowed?

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nate

2008-11-01 11:08:25 am

sure, but you're on your own when it comes to capture.

hZarrow

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hZarrow: 2008-11-01 02:00:00 pm

2008-11-01 01:52:31 pm

yes, you can record on the vhs first,

and then you'll just have to transfer it onto an DVD-R later .

andrewg

2008-11-01 09:23:33 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

That's what I have to do unfortunately. My runs still have fair quality, but of course DVD is better.

Thiradell

2008-11-01 11:23:44 pm

Mr. Twishall

Ahhh...okay. I'll get on that (transfer to DVD).

13013

(user is banned)

2008-11-02 02:25:11 am

Yes Mario Riding A Pole

quick question what device makes it able to transfer vhs to computer to put it on dvd

nate

2008-11-02 08:06:09 am

dvd recorder.

Emptyeye

2008-11-02 09:28:05 am

Talk to the Hand

Yeah, you've got options. There are combo VHS/DVD recorders out there; alternately, one could just hook a DVD recorder up to a VHS player. And then there are capture cards.

Just to clarify for my own curiosity, SDA wants DVD/digital files for the submitted product, but doesn't care about the route taken to get there (Providing it passes quality tests, etc), correct?

nate

2008-11-02 10:18:38 am

i wouldn't say doesn't care. we will reject things for bad quality. but vhs is good enough quality not to be rejected if you know what you are doing.

nate

2008-12-25 06:40:21 pm

http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08%2F12%2F25%2F1952258&from=rss

DavizZz

2008-12-27 04:57:46 pm

youtube.com/DavizZz2106

you can still record with VCR and the quality is definately good enough. but you cannot send your tape to nate anymore. Only DVDs. But with the help of anri chan it's even possible to convert DVD (.vobs) to .avi or .mp4 by your own. Btw I was shocked when i saw nate's tape library XD.

Enhasa

2008-12-28 12:49:11 am

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

Basically, if the only thing you have is a VCR, and you think your choices are: 1) record on VHS, or 2) don't record at all, please for the love of God choose 1 and I promise that it will work out. I'll let you work out exactly what I mean by that, but I guarantee it.

InsomPsycho

2009-03-10 10:16:31 pm

I would think (if you're doing a segmented run, at least) that VHS or Capture card would be best for initial recording, because you're likely to make several attempts at a run, and you wouldn't want to (A) waste DVD space by recording multiple runs on a DVD or (B) send Nate DVDs that have multiple attempts on them, just the final attempts, right?

Which would be better, VHS or a capture card?

Sir VG

2009-03-10 10:29:28 pm

Fucking Weeaboo

Quote from InsomPsycho:

I would think (if you're doing a segmented run, at least) that VHS or Capture card would be best for initial recording, because you're likely to make several attempts at a run, and you wouldn't want to (A) waste DVD space by recording multiple runs on a DVD or (B) send Nate DVDs that have multiple attempts on them, just the final attempts, right?

Which would be better, VHS or a capture card?

Capture card. It's a digital format, and you can record in better quality, as long as you set it up properly.

But a DVD recorder with a HDD built in trumps all, IMO. ^^;;

InsomPsycho

2009-03-11 01:06:23 am

Quote from Lord_VG:

Quote from InsomPsycho:

I would think (if you're doing a segmented run, at least) that VHS or Capture card would be best for initial recording, because you're likely to make several attempts at a run, and you wouldn't want to (A) waste DVD space by recording multiple runs on a DVD or (B) send Nate DVDs that have multiple attempts on them, just the final attempts, right?

Which would be better, VHS or a capture card?

Capture card. It's a digital format, and you can record in better quality, as long as you set it up properly.

But a DVD recorder with a HDD built in trumps all, IMO. ^^;;

I assume that will record to the HDD instead of the disc, and it would be re-writable?

Sir VG

2009-03-11 03:26:26 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Quote from InsomPsycho:

Quote from Lord_VG:

Capture card. It's a digital format, and you can record in better quality, as long as you set it up properly.

But a DVD recorder with a HDD built in trumps all, IMO. ^^;;

I assume that will record to the HDD instead of the disc, and it would be re-writable?

Yes, you can write straight to the HDD, though some of them do allow you to burn straight to DVD.

InsomPsycho

2009-04-21 04:42:50 am

what kind of DVD recorder, and what kind of discs, would I use, if I want to be able to record over and over on the same disk?I definitely don't want to waste money on DVD's that will be thrown out.

ZenicReverie

2009-04-21 04:52:45 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

dvd-rw, although a recorder with a built-in HDD takes a lot of the hassle out of discs.

InsomPsycho

2009-04-21 05:05:27 am

you're following me, aren't you? Tongue

Would a DVD-recorder with dvd-rw's be the cheapest high-quality option?

ZenicReverie

2009-04-21 05:18:59 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

ah, cheapest, yes. dvd-recorder with dvd-rws, forget the hdd. make sure you get a sharpie though to mark those discs.

Sir VG

2009-04-21 07:09:24 am

Fucking Weeaboo

Just remember that DVD-RWs have a lot less rerecord capabilities compared to HDDs.

And don't send those into nate. Either rip and send the VOBs, or use DVD Decrypter to make a copy onto DVD-R.

ZenicReverie

2009-04-21 07:21:07 am

Waiting hurts my soul...

Something else I just realized, but should have mentioned since I'm kind of dealing with it now, space is limited on DVD-RWs, so you'll have a time limit for recording. I can get about 45 minutes on my discs at the highest quality, but on the HDD I have 33 hours worth of space.

nate

2009-04-21 09:57:53 am

sp which is acceptable for sda is 2 hours, xp is better which is 1 hour. not all recorders have hq (some call it different things) which is what zr is talking about. but the point is that if you have a recorder with an hdd there's no reason not to use hq all the time since you can burn an rw with pieces of your run later to get it onto the computer for submission. you can also do it without an hdd but you need more rws.

InsomPsycho

2009-04-21 04:28:59 pm

Well right now I have 75 DVD+R's, and 0 DVD-RW's.

What's the difference between +R and -R?

Also, on my DVD+R's, there's an RW logo, but nowhere does it say DVD+/-RW.

I'm guessing DVDRW to DVDR is still preferrable compared with VHS to DVDR, right?

The thing is, I think my parents already have a DVD recorder, so there's no way I'll go spend <$1,000 simply for the HDD convenience.

Oh, and they said that for single-segment runs over 2 hours, it's okay to pause to change discs, as long as you make it clear that you are pausing there for that reason, and that you couldn't possibly be segmenting it.

nate

2009-04-23 05:04:23 pm

+ and - are just different formats. shouldn't matter if the recorder is compatible with them. the difference is only when recording, not after finalization.

vhs will destroy the quality of anything you put through it. it's impossible to get back.