beta.SpeedDemosArchive.com no more, see mikwuyma's post on page 3 for details [locked]

2008-07-01 02:21:54 am

I'm wrong? I'm wrong. I couldn't find the new Manhunt run and assumed the worst.

2008-07-01 08:33:24 am

Quote from grndino:

I'm wrong? I'm wrong. I couldn't find the new Manhunt run and assumed the worst.

http://ia311337.us.archive.org/1/items/2008-06-SDA_Speed_Runs/Manhunt_13613_part01.mp4
http://ia311337.us.archive.org/1/items/2008-06-SDA_Speed_Runs/Manhunt_13613_LQ_part01.mp4
http://ia311337.us.archive.org/1/items/2008-06-SDA_Speed_Runs/Manhunt_13613_HQ_part01.mp4

There just are no individual pages for individual runs anymore, the files are all there, though.

Protricity

(user is banned)

2008-07-01 04:14:42 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Quote from DAMURDOC:

I hate the colors but the layout is quite amazing. We all know SDA needs a makeover and I would love to see it changed.

If anyone would like to mess with the css layout, I can set them up a 'theme' to change css and image files around. If it turns out good, I'll switch the theme to default. Design wasn't my focus.

Quote from grndino:

One feature I'd like to see in an SDA revamp is a place to view the history of the game's runs. Previous times, runners, comments etc. Keeping deprecated runs themselves is probably less plausible, but hey, we're an archive right?

It would take some time to see results for this kind of feature, though.

The interface keeps old speedrun information, but right now there is no way to determine which are 'outdated'. The solution will come from some tricky comparison of Game + SS or not SS + other factors vs date and run time. Once this is done, I can show the old runs as archived links in side of new runs. If anyone wants to help with this, they could be of great use finding all old records and adding them as archived records on each run. Its actually pretty easy, so let me know....

[quote="DAMURDOC"]
I hate the colors but the layout is quite amazing. We all know SDA needs a makeover and I would love to see it changed.
[/quote]

If anyone would like to mess with the css layout, I can set them up a 'theme' to change css and image files around. If it turns out good, I'll switch the theme to default. Design wasn't my focus.

[quote="grndino"]
One feature I'd like to see in an SDA revamp is a place to view the history of the game's runs.  Previous times, runners, comments etc.  Keeping deprecated runs themselves is probably less plausible, but hey, we're an archive right?

It would take some time to see results for this kind of feature, though.
[/quote]

The interface keeps old speedrun information, but right now there is no way to determine which are 'outdated'. The solution will come from some tricky comparison of Game + SS or not SS + other factors vs date and run time. Once this is done, I can show the old runs as archived links in side of new runs. If anyone wants to help with this, they could be of great use finding all old records and adding them as archived records on each run. Its actually pretty easy, so let me know....

Sigma

2008-07-01 05:21:50 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I cannot offer any web design tips, but I can say that this is really well done. Fantastically user-friendly, very organized, an all around great idea. Good work!

andrewg

2008-07-02 07:36:47 pm

Hi! I'm andrewg!

It doesn't look like obsoleted runs are being deleted from the system. I think they should be able to be sorted in a different way somehow.

Protricity

(user is banned)

2008-07-03 01:52:46 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Quote from andrewg:

It doesn't look like obsoleted runs are being deleted from the system. I think they should be able to be sorted in a different way somehow.

Thats right, they aren't being removed, but they are also showing up in searches. As I mentioned, I'm going to have to find a way to recognize which are obsolete and hide them from all places except for archive/history sections.

RaneofSOTN

2008-07-03 05:28:32 pm

I want off the ride....

couldn't you either add a new value to the search tables to see if its outdated, just a simple yes or no...

or there is just another use of making a table that keeps only the current runs, and when you search for non obsoleted it uses the table as a part of the criteria?

Those two are the easy ways i can see to do it.. Yay for intro to database management systems.

Protricity

(user is banned)

2008-07-03 06:20:06 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Quote from RaneofSOTN:

couldn't you either add a new value to the search tables to see if its outdated, just a simple yes or no...

or there is just another use of making a table that keeps only the current runs, and when you search for non obsoleted it uses the table as a part of the criteria?

Those two are the easy ways i can see to do it.. Yay for intro to database management systems.

Yes, that's exactly what I'll do, but first I have to figure out how to determine what the value of that field is. I like to avoid manual work whenever possible and furnish an automated system.

Btw, I added the FAQ entries:
http://beta.speeddemosarchive.com/n/Section/FAQ/?

Protricity

(user is banned)

2008-07-04 05:17:50 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

got rid of the iffy autocomplete and created an autoupdater which acts much cleaner and made several updates to the game and demo pages. If anyone has any issues on IE, please let me know.

DK64_MASTER

2008-07-11 11:58:37 pm

mikwuyma

Edit history:

mikwuyma: 2008-07-12 02:29:35 am

2008-07-12 12:29:42 am

My feelings on The Demon Rush

You might notice that beta.speeddemosarchive.com doesn't work anymore.

That's because we've known for a little while that Protricity is known for vandalizing sites and flaming. Also, judging from the second link, a narcissist. Some examples below.

http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/OC_Remix#Protricity
http://wiki.thasauce.net/index.php?title=Protricity

Now you're probably wondering how Protricity was given access in the first place. Well, Nate didn't really know who Protricity was, and he wanted a database-driven SDA. He was only given read access, so he couldn't modify any files.

If you logged in beta.speeddemosarchive.com with a password you normally use for other accounts, you should change your other passwords IMMEDIATELY.

I apologize for letting this happen, and I admit we (Enhasa and I) let this linger for too long.

Sir VG

2008-07-12 01:05:23 am

Fucking Weeaboo

It's too bad that he's not all that he's cracked up to be. Admitably, the site was a nice idea (but not perfect though). Hopefully pieces of it will be incorporated into SDA 2.0.

Enhasa

2008-07-12 01:15:34 am

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

as prot would say, "backdoor much?"

Enhasa

2008-07-12 01:22:34 am

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

BTW all I'm going to say for now is, isn't this the funniest picture you've ever seen in your life? I've seen it dozens of times now and it still cracks me up every time.

Carcinogen

2008-07-12 02:00:24 am

Yikes.

Shadow Jacky

2008-07-12 02:15:46 am

fucking .gif....

as I'm reading all about this and reading more about Protricity...I'm listening to his awesome remixes ;_;

Tiki

2008-07-12 02:50:33 am

I don't even know what the fuck this is

Fuck him, he's an asshole. This comment is totally worth posting, seriously.

sshplur

2008-07-12 06:57:12 am

The cunt.

andrewg

2008-07-12 10:17:41 am

Hi! I'm andrewg!

Prot wanted me to post this:

"prot: Since you guys don't want to talk to me at all, or give me a chance to defend myself, I'll just say a few things then I'm gone. The entire ED page mike linked to was a joke. I wrote half of it. The only semblence of truth on it was the vgmix incident of 4 years ago which was blown out of proportion. I just have one question for all of you so willing to believe other people with the shallowest of evidence.

prot: Why the hell would I have put a month of work into sda beta, with results no one can deny were real, just to troll my own site? what could I possibly have gained? If I was out to steal passwords, why would I tell everyone who registered not to use the same passwords from other sites? Why would I have a disclaimer that says the same thing on the new user page?

prot: Theres only one reason this happend, and thats Mike, Enhasa, and a few otheres just don't like me. Thats fine, I know I'm an asshole. But this whole ED thing was just the venue for doing what they wanted to do all along. "

Prot wanted me to post this:

"prot: Since you guys don't want to talk to me at all, or give me a chance to defend myself, I'll just say a few things then I'm gone. The entire ED page mike linked to was a joke. I wrote half of it. The only semblence of truth on it was the vgmix incident of 4 years ago which was blown out of proportion. I just have one question for all of you so willing to believe other people with the shallowest of evidence.

prot: Why the hell would I have put a month of work into sda beta, with results no one can deny were real, just to troll my own site? what could I possibly have gained? If I was out to steal passwords, why would I tell everyone who registered not to use the same passwords from other sites? Why would I have a disclaimer that says the same thing on the new user page?

prot: Theres only one reason this happend, and thats Mike, Enhasa, and a few otheres just don't like me. Thats fine, I know I'm an asshole. But this whole ED thing was just the venue for doing what they wanted to do all along. "

Enhasa

2008-07-12 10:52:33 am

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

<Enhasa> and he didn't even name the correct people who don't like him
<Enhasa> which would be everyone
<Enhasa> also, "what they wanted to do all along" should be "would have done on day one if only he was as famous as he thought he was"
<Enhasa> tell him this has nothing to do with that site
<Enhasa> we only just found it last night from googling

Who edits their own wiki entry anyway? Someone who smells their own dirty socks.

It's funny how he wants to foot-in-the-door and he thinks that if beta can stay around long enough and he adds enough useless features like the sig thing, eventually public opinion will turn and people will clamor for it? He knows we would never use it, so the goal is just to try to stir up shit and cause fracturing. Which wouldn't happen here since we have an apolitical community and nobody likes him.

That whole beta thing is irrelevant. Forget anything outside SDA for a moment, being banned from ocremix, being banned from tasvideos, etc etc. If anyone came into a community and flamed everyone nonstop, acting like a giant douche, and nobody likes him, doesn't that behavior typically get banned anyway?

This is what I PM'd him on IRC:

Quote:

<Enhasa> hey since you're here, i don't even hate you, i even agree with most of your opinions
<Enhasa> and you've been nice to me since you're a giant suckup to anyone with any sort of power
<Enhasa> it wasn't worth keeping you around though, since you don't contribute anything positive at all
<Enhasa> and it's annoying to have to pm people you're trolling all the time to tell them you are
<Enhasa> and listen to everyone ask why you aren't banned yet, and that the mods don't do anything
<Enhasa> that's all, good luck on your next site
<Enhasa> i would suggest switching nicks next time to be less blatant but i guess you're an attention whore and like the infamy

<Enhasa> and he didn't even name the correct people who don't like him    
<Enhasa> which would be everyone   
<Enhasa> also, "what they wanted to do all along" should be "would have done on day one if only he was as famous as he thought he was"
<Enhasa> tell him this has nothing to do with that site  
<Enhasa> we only just found it last night from googling

Who edits their own wiki entry anyway? Someone who smells their own dirty socks.

It's funny how he wants to foot-in-the-door and he thinks that if beta can stay around long enough and he adds enough useless features like the sig thing, eventually public opinion will turn and people will clamor for it? He knows we would never use it, so the goal is just to try to stir up shit and cause fracturing. Which wouldn't happen here since we have an apolitical community and nobody likes him.

That whole beta thing is irrelevant. Forget anything outside SDA for a moment, being banned from ocremix, being banned from tasvideos, etc etc. If anyone came into a community and flamed everyone nonstop, acting like a giant douche, and nobody likes him, doesn't that behavior typically get banned anyway?

This is what I PM'd him on IRC:
[quote]
<Enhasa> hey since you're here, i don't even hate you, i even agree with most of your opinions  
<Enhasa> and you've been nice to me since you're a giant suckup to anyone with any sort of power  
<Enhasa> it wasn't worth keeping you around though, since you don't contribute anything positive at all  
<Enhasa> and it's annoying to have to pm people you're trolling all the time to tell them you are  
<Enhasa> and listen to everyone ask why you aren't banned yet, and that the mods don't do anything  
<Enhasa> that's all, good luck on your next site  
<Enhasa> i would suggest switching nicks next time to be less blatant but i guess you're an attention whore and like the infamy  
[/quote]

Enhasa

2008-07-12 11:16:37 am

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

Just wanted to add, Prot is an extremely rare case, a "once in 10 years" sort of phenomenon. We're not going to start banning more people, nobody else even causes any trouble. On a scale of 1 to 10 in disruptiveness, the next highest person would probably rate a 2 or so.

Also, don't feel bad for him at all, who needs 14th chances, he's been unbanned and rebanned from the same site before, and we're not going to bother with that. The nature of the Internet is that you can't ban anyone from anything public. If he wants, he can come back to IRC or SDA Forum with an alt, and nobody can do anything about it. He creates alt accounts on IRC all the time to argue or agree with himself (since who else would carry on a conversation with him), and there's a good chance he would do it again now with the forum. So keep that in mind if any new or low postcount people mention him or beta or anything related to him, since who else would even care to talk about him? (this was a dead giveaway every time on IRC with alt nicks)

His bad luck here is that unlike places like ocremix, we have a very nice community. So when you're the only douchebag, you kinda stick out. Also on a site with a lot of rivalries and e-drama, you can make make inroads by insulting people randomly and then those they're fighting with will initially appreciate you for it. And once he stepped out of the remix community, he found out that other people actually don't give a crap who he is. Really unfortunate, he would have had more luck with a different community.

Just wanted to add, Prot is an extremely rare case, a "once in 10 years" sort of phenomenon. We're not going to start banning more people, nobody else even causes any trouble. On a scale of 1 to 10 in disruptiveness, the next highest person would probably rate a 2 or so.

Also, don't feel bad for him at all, who needs 14th chances, he's been unbanned and rebanned from the same site before, and we're not going to bother with that. The nature of the Internet is that you can't ban anyone from anything public. If he wants, he can come back to IRC or SDA Forum with an alt, and nobody can do anything about it. He creates alt accounts on IRC all the time to argue or agree with himself (since who else would carry on a conversation with him), and there's a good chance he would do it again now with the forum. So keep that in mind if any new or low postcount people mention him or beta or anything related to him, since who else would even care to talk about him? (this was a dead giveaway every time on IRC with alt nicks)

His bad luck here is that unlike places like ocremix, we have a very nice community. So when you're the only douchebag, you kinda stick out. Also on a site with a lot of rivalries and e-drama, you can make make inroads by insulting people randomly and then those they're fighting with will initially appreciate you for it. And once he stepped out of the remix community, he found out that other people actually don't give a crap who he is. Really unfortunate, he would have had more luck with a different community.

In_Pieces

2008-07-12 11:21:06 am

...?

Umm, i dont know anything about him, but does anyone honestly trust encyclopedia dramatica as a reliable source of information? Just saying...

Enhasa

2008-07-12 12:04:30 pm

everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music

We're not going off that info, we only found that long after we decided we were going to ban him. Did you read any posts after Mike's first one? Besides, I didn't even know who he was until he came to SDA, and I've never seen him anywhere else on the Internet, so any actions taken against him are very much related to SDA.

I promise he's only pretending to be hurt anyway. He has to be very used to it and have a very thick skin by now. He knows fully well he deserves to be banned, he's just trying to stir up trouble by trying to pick up any sympathizers. It's not like he's being sentenced to death or anything actually important to real life. He's just being banned from one site, and he can evade the ban easily. I'm the most understanding guy you'll ever meet, but when you have this many strikes, you don't deserve sympathy. When your pride and arrogance is so great that you join new communities with your old tarnished name, you don't deserve sympathy for that either.

groobo

2008-07-12 12:06:36 pm

boss

Hey prot, fuck you. Beta sucked anyway.

Emptyeye

2008-07-12 02:28:35 pm

Talk to the Hand

I had known the guy's reputation from OCRemix, but didn't say anything because I figured maybe he had turned over a new leaf or something, or the reports about him weren't true. Guess not.