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I've been playing with that orb and try to get some clips and it seems like the only place you'll get enough speed to clip through is with anywhere there's ice on the ground. Feel free to test out and disprove this theory.

Also it appears that after you beat the Chapter 8 finale and if you exit level to end the cut-scene it brings you to after you make it to the boat. I would like to hear your opinions on if this should be used in runs, maybe it doesn't work on a new file (only NG+).
so was just told that my run doesnt count because of my starting place, anyone want to clarify where i should be starting and if NG and NG+ are different things because from what the same person told me NG+ isnt a thing and that NG starts you with weapons and i just dont see how that works as a NG should be fresh with no weapons feel free to correct me on that but to me its stupid for a NG to start with things unlocked
Have done some practicing and routing for chapter 2. On a really bad run I got a 11:29.8 and can probably get it down to sub 11. The stage that is a real time waster is 2-8, where you have to wait a long time for a bomb block chain to let the boat loose just to get to the exit. Does anyone know of a way to skip that or make it faster? Anyway, if anyone has a better time Id love to hear!

If you want to discuss times and routing add me on Steam : KcajMega

Buckle yo pants and go fast!
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Updated: 7/12/14

Segmented Best Times [Vsync On]
Chapter 1: 07:50
Chapter 2: 09:27
Chapter 3: 10:22
Chapter 4: 09:56
Chapter 5: 12:42
Chapter 6: 12:17
Chapter 7: 12:26
Chapter 8: 14:16

Full Runs
Any%: 59:11 Played 8-2 Accidently
Any% NLS: 1:38:21
100%: 0:00:00
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Adikar: 2014-07-06 02:20:57 am
Alright, I will be updating my runs each time I do them. Sorry I havent had time this weekend to do much. I work weekends.
Need to practice more Chapter 4,  5, 6 and 8. Will probably be hitting under 1:40 this week in my runs.
Ill be uploading my best run after this week. Good luck with the runs everyone.
http://www.twitch.tv/monkiboy_/c/4605919 chapter 1 in 7:44 could be around 7:40 but a little screw up and a death happy with this for now
http://www.twitch.tv/monkiboy_/c/4606446 any% NLS in 1:37:19 splits messed up a little in the first part. decent run few mistakes but still abit more to save, i think 1:35 will be a big push till then i am happy with this time
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OrangeCrix: 2014-07-06 09:58:45 am
Quote from KcajMega:
Have done some practicing and routing for chapter 2. On a really bad run I got a 11:29.8 and can probably get it down to sub 11. The stage that is a real time waster is 2-8, where you have to wait a long time for a bomb block chain to let the boat loose just to get to the exit. Does anyone know of a way to skip that or make it faster? Anyway, if anyone has a better time Id love to hear!

If you want to discuss times and routing add me on Steam : KcajMega

Buckle yo pants and go fast!


Use an orb at the bottom right section and it'll go under the wall to break the blocks. You can also use the bubble while falling down, but you'll die.
Is PJ
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It didn't even cross my mind to use death warps until I watched your run, haha.. Gonna have a good look for some soon.

Here's an interesting route for 6-1 (sorry about the music, at least it was an instrumental Tongue )


Unsure if I mentioned this or not, but you can probably save 10ish seconds getting to the wall you clip through.  Whenever you climb the sticky pink stuff (bubblegum?), you can just tap into it to refresh your double jump, then release the dpad to begin freefall.  Then double jump, tap into the wall to refresh double jump, and repeat.  It is WAY faster than constantly walljumping out from it and it also gives you a lot more control.

Your cloud staircase is also slower than it needs to be.  You can do it with just one block move and a dart.  Or two block moves if you don't want to use dart for some reason (but you use it later in the level in your video so I assumed it'd be fine).  I made a real quick video to give you an idea: 

Liking the progress!
Pj, you man stud you, go through and find timesavers in Monkiboy's run pls.
Is PJ
Yea I might.  I really really hate any% so it's tough for me to watch a lot of it, but I might give it a whirl when I have some time.
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Adikar: 2014-07-07 05:17:38 pm
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About time. I took 5 hours playing Chapter 2, just to get an under 9:30 run.
Chapter 3 video, coming Thursday.
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PJ: 2014-07-07 09:25:51 am
Is PJ
You can cancel the airplane powerup with an air attack, so if you overfly in 2-7 again you can just attack to cancel it instead of waiting to slowly hover back down.  Would save some seconds.  Love the energy ball on the 2-8 blocks.

Edit:  I'm sure you know, but I just want to mention it to be sure: you don't need any gems in the 2nd finale.  The key will always be accessible.  It's not a big deal because most of the finale gems are directly on your path, but in case you were thinking about taking a detour it's not necessary.
the only second finale you need to collect gem in is chapter 8 but its so hard to avoid grabbing three there is no worry of missing them
@PJ Nice! That bubblegum technique will come in handy for sure.

Been routing chapter four today, my favourite to run so far.
Here is (probably) the most risky route in the chapter. After a few attempts you will be able to hit the first jump consistently.


Next week I should have a bit of time to really get stuck into the game, so I will probably upload some individual chapters.
Adikar awesome chapter two run dude!
Wow that is an easy spike jump haha.
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Adikar: 2014-07-07 11:33:42 pm
@Scottm, Very nice jump, I tried it for 10 minutes, and could get it 85% of the time. If you get it within the first 3 times, its saving time. So the spike jump is 100% worth learning. Keep up the good work on finding new strategies and routes.
@Monkiboy, Good job on the 1:37:19 run. Very good run and goal for everyone to try getting close to in runs.

It's great that the BBT Community is starting to get bigger for Speed running.

Starting to run Chapter 3 for a few hours. Get ready for another video today!
Remember that I will be updating my best Segment times in this Forum. So to keep up with my recent times in Chapter 3 before the video, make sure to take a look at that. Good luck with the runs everyone.
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Adikar: 2014-07-08 08:05:25 am
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Chapter 3 run. Im still trying to figure out my OBS Recording. Sometimes it records perfectly, sometimes it wont. Hopefully I can get a more stable Encoding Setting.
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Adikar: 2014-07-08 06:19:41 pm
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Chapter 4 Practice! Here I come! Chapter 4 Segment Runs for an hour or so.
If I get a great run, I will be posting the video tonight.
Also, I have took some time to get the encoding settings better, so the upcoming videos should be better in quality.
If you want to talk routing in any of the Chapters, give me a message on Skype/steam.
Skype: Endless PoE
Steam: AdikarTV
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Adikar: 2014-07-09 03:00:19 pm
Hey Everyone. Just figured something out that with decrease the time on your runs. Make sure you go into the Options>Video Settings and turn off Enhanced Background and Vsync Lock. I lost 30+ seconds on Chapter 1 Alone due to these being on. About to upload my 7:30 Chapter 1 Run. It makes a huge difference. Trust me. Good luck, and I hope it takes some time off your runs.

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OrangeCrix: 2014-07-09 02:08:05 pm
Quote from Adikar:
Hey Everyone. Just figured something out that with decrease the time on your runs. Make sure you go into the Options>Video Settings and turn off Enhanced Background and Vsync Lock. I lost 30+ seconds on Chapter 1 Alone due to these being on. About to upload my 7:30 Chapter 1 Run. It makes a huge difference. Trust me. Good luck, and I hope it takes some time off your runs.


Personally I think Vsync lock should be enabled, just so people with faster computers don't get an advantage for the game running at a slightly higher framerate.
Is PJ
Yea that kind of framerate manipulation is why I hate PC games.  If people start doing runs with that off, I probably won't be running/routing this game anymore.
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I did a perfect run getting 7:50, getting faster checkpoint times and such than Monkiboy, and he still gets 7:45 with a death, and slower checkpoint times in many different levels. Either he has it off too, or theres no real way to have a legitimate speedrun of this game due to Framerate not staying 60, either due to slow computers not being able to run it, or because faster computers get faster times. Due to not proving others players aren't doing this same method, I will continue to run Vsync Lock off.
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Monkiboy: 2014-07-09 03:42:42 pm
hmm not sure just tested on my machine with fraps to see the fps i was getting and it was 60 with and without vsync not sure if anyone else has tried to see what fps they are getting with it on and off

well i will be having vsync on just to stop people crying about things runs the same for me on or off so i dont really care about it
It does make a difference - my frame rate increases, but there is a wavey line or something that moves up my screen, which makes it pretty much impossible for me to speedrun.
I think we can all trust each other to have it enabled, there's not too many of us running it.