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ROUTE CHANGE.

So after being asked "why do you farm olives like that" for the xth time, I decided to demonstrate the point that Breakdown made by farming olives in Arcadia until they stopped dropping.

What wound up happening is that I reached about 70 (75 maybe?) before it really stopped. I did notice the olives slow down, but I've actually found that doing two farming sessions of 65 olives rather than going with three farming sessions of 45/45/40 takes out the risk and slowness of the extra setup.

It's still luck based, but it has just about as much as the other route. It just makes the farming a lot easier skill-wise, and it means that I'll be getting more attempts and not be going as insane!

So, just to recap, here's the route:

Talk to Zeus
Go to Argolis and get told by green guy to buzz off
Go back to Arcadia, farm 65 olives
Back to the pad of Zeus, get the sandals
Go through forest, kill hydra and get sword (using a damage boost through the burnable bushes)
Go through forest to get harp
Get ambrosia in cyclops room and kill cyclops
Get flask
Kill harpy (WITH THE HELP OF THE HARP, HAH)
Go in scary dark tunnel, kill wizards and get orb
Use harp to go back to Arcadia
Farm up 65 olives in Arcadia
Go to Argolis and use the orb to find the first love fragment
Harp from Argolis to Attica
Fill flask in Attica, and get key
Use ocarina on stone boss, get through to Phthia
Scream, pull my hair out, obtain the divine sword
On the way back to the right, snag the free ambrosia
DON'T MISS THE JUMP BACK FROM THE AMBROSIA
Go in waterfall, use orb to get second love fragment
Harp from Phthia back to Laconia
Go all the way right from Laconia to Crete
In Crete, fill flask with waterfall (I will have certainly taken enough damage to warrant it)
Kill minotaur with sweet stunlock moves, get final love fragment
Go back out and enter Tartarus
Cross fingers to not get shat upon by the RNG gods with their monkeys and birds
Kill the scary invisible man
Sounds good.
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Boxfat: 2013-02-16 03:25:42 am
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Just ran 100% for giggles - wound up with a time of 1:29:10

I think with a good amount of practice, that could get brought down close to an hour, maybe even a little less.

It's actually pretty fun, and I'll attack it more aggressively after I get that deathless any% I'm looking for. Smiley
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Good luck sir.
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Boxfat: 2013-03-02 06:32:04 am
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Cut it down to 31:18 with one death! The death probably cost me around 40 seconds, and was in a really inconvenient location. But I had such insane olive luck (44->50 olives out of nowhere) that I saved a buttload of time.



I meant to post this earlier when I got it, but was somehow derping hard with getting the Youtube embed in this post. Warning, lots of swearing as usual. Tongue
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After a bit of testing, I found that I actually lost a good 40 seconds with that death in that run. I think I'm going to have to accept some (very slightly) less than SUPERB luck and settle for decent/good luck.

I'm kinda anxious to get a deathless run and stick a knife in it for now. After I get a <31 deathless run (or close) I'd be happy to submit that to SDA - and I'd work on it again should competition arise. I'm looking at you, Crippe123! Wink
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Sorry if this is getting a little spammy, but... This just happened tonight. I stood to gain 40 more seconds on top of those splits I had going. Breakdown was right - sub 30 is very doable with really good luck. I can't believe I threw this away...
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I heard about this.  Sad

I feel bad.
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You got killed by a monkey in Phthia, man. Don't blame yourself.
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Boxfat: 2013-03-17 02:18:20 am
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Boxfat: 2013-03-17 02:14:11 am
Boxfat: 2013-03-17 02:14:01 am
Boxfat: 2013-03-17 02:13:48 am
Boxfat: 2013-03-17 02:12:58 am
Boxfat: 2013-03-16 11:12:54 pm
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Deathless, 31:09

(As usual, lots of swearing... Be prepared.)
http://www.twitch.tv/boxfat/c/2036295



Stickin' a knife in this and calling it done for now. If someone presses me, I'll compete, but after 4 months, that's where it's at. Smiley

I was kinda hoping to save more time by not dying. If someone were to grind out the luck and not make the mistakes I made, I feel like a 29:50 or so is POSSIBLE.
HELLO!
Bo knows petrification.
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Keep it up, you can get teh urn!
Awesome. I haven't seen one of these before. It was a delight. Your voice is familiar. The gaming is impressive. Thanks.
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Karma: 2014-12-10 12:28:22 am
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[EDIT - yes this is box. Just switching names to what I'm more comfortable with.]

So I played this game again twice tonight...

First time:


One time wasting death, a decent amount of hesitation in some areas, and a slow-ish first farm.  Timer shows -.8 instead of .5 like it should because I lost my old splits and had to get them again manually. I consider it a tie with my previous run. Tongue

Second time:


The two screens after Cerberus where you get your first Tartarus continue point are filled with RNG hell. I died repeatedly on those two screens and finished this run out as a joke... then I kinda choked all over the place in Hades' temple because it was already over anyway.  I've learned and practiced a lot since I got the current run that's up here, and I *will* get a sub 30 run eventually. I've found a lot of ways to do screens faster, some from my own research, and some things I've picked up from Feasel when he dabbled in this and Zakky who's just picking it up.

Also, a little while after the SDA run, Pasky did some digging around and figured out how the drops work and did a nice little writeup here. The gist of it is that a total of 75 olives AND 75 bay leaves can drop in one area. (An area counts as any place you see on the map screen, AKA Arcadia, Argolis, Attica...) Any time you enter a new area, all the counters reset. Initial droprate for each item is 1/4. When you obtain a total of 100 drops of either kind (or in other words, if there's less than 50 drops between the two pools of items available), the droprate for each item gets cut in half to 1/8.

Anyway... Figured it wouldn't be too bad to post here just to mention that this game should be seeing some progress in the near future. :3
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brb crying myself to sleep

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HavocProdigy: 2014-12-16 01:30:05 am
Stop using splits.  I've been there for your last two collapses.  You can do this.  You're just letting your nerves get to you Tongue
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If it's a black box, it's processing on Youtube still.

In any case... beat my time by one second.  Some mistakes were made, and the olive luck wasn't quite as godlike, but I'll get sub 30 very soon.

Wait...I thought it was 31:09 that you had before this and that you beat it by almost exactly a minute.  I'm so confused.
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Karma: 2014-12-17 12:28:47 am
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I beat my 4-death run by one second Tongue

Except now it's also deathless so I hate myself less.