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TheVoid: 2012-08-05 04:00:28 pm
I just found this glitch (Done on the PC version).

Equip the Smoke Pellet, walk off a ledge and when you're about to walk off of it drop the Smoke Pellet.
Maybe that could be useful somewhere? Perhaps it could be done at other dangerous things? I haven't tested it much yet.
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RoboSparkle: 2012-08-08 12:31:20 pm
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I just tried this out and it works on 360 as well, pretty easy to get the timing down, and it does work in the next section (you can do it off of an ice platform), very nice find Void!  There's still so much of this game to break, if only any of it was useful in a speedrun...

UPDATE: Haven't been able to replicate this anywhere else apart the Steel Mill so far, and can't seem to get out of the water anywhere except the very beginning section, but it's still early days yet.  I'm going to put playtime on hold until after ESA anyway.

Also, regarding the aforementioned gate glitch in the Museum, haven't been able to replicate that anywhere that isn't the museum either but it does save entering a few of the gate passwords.  Unfortunately it also makes the game unwinnable when you return as Catwoman to fight Two-Face, so only really good for a Batman-only NG+ run.  I'm going to make a Museum blooper reel sometime after ESA (and after I've moved too..) as there's quite a lot of neat stuff in there.  My favourite is probably inmates taunting me while I am literally inches from their face!
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RoboSparkle: 2012-08-26 04:22:51 pm
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So, quick update:

DarthKnight's runs for Normal with Catwoman and NG+ with Catwoman have both been accepted! Congrats mate, can't wait to see them.

My Hard mode Batman only run is in verification atm and also being uploaded to youtube: 

Using SDA timing I've got 1:44:25 which I hope passes and the time is agreed.

I'm in the middle of moving to a house without a HD TV so I can't do anymore runs for the time being so I'm done with attempts for now, but I may try to improve this with time.  I may do an NG+ Batman Only run since I can save my file to memory stick.  It's a convoluted process but easier than completing a game every time I want to have an attempt!  I may also look at doing HQR and an IL table of Riddlers revenge (I haven't played any of these beyond getting three medals on everything so if anyone wants a collab for this I'm well up for it!)

I think for now though I'll just break the game some more.  I'm convinced that there's a sequence break in there somewhere and I may have found a way to get to Ra's right at the start of the game in NG+ (but probably not, stupid cutscene triggers...)
Also, if you want to see the new glitches in the museum (and the 30 seconds of potential savings it actually provides to an NG+ run) then my twitch account has the magical moment I discovered the glitch: http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/327436550
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It's been processing all day. The suspense is killing me!
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RoboSparkle: 2012-08-27 03:16:11 am
RoboSparkle: 2012-08-26 11:21:04 pm
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slow internet, plus my laptop went to sleep, and this is the good quality video.  96% done, have faith. And check back in an hour cos the run will have to process as well Wink

Edit: It's done
thethrillness.blogspot.com
Is this useful at all or known?

Yes that's known, and useful Smiley Check a recent run to see it in action.
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RoboSparkle: 2012-08-29 11:28:50 am
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Specifically, 51mins 40secs in my video above Wink

Amazingly that is one of the only useful glitches (out of a simply staggering selection on offer) that is actually useful in a speedrun!
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RoboSparkle: 2012-09-09 05:36:16 pm
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I just spent a few hours today exploring the "restricted area" discovered that you can get into parts of Arkham City without loading them - none of the textures will be there and some of the floors won't be solid.  Possibly a faster way of getting around, but I may also be able to use this to skip saving Warden Sharp.

I got to the wonder tower elevator right at the beginning of the game (both NG and NG+) and in both cases you can't get into the elevator - in the first because you don't have the TYGER codes, in the latter Batman just flat out refuses Sad

It starts from about 55 mins into the vid (don't have time to pick out highlights right now, I'll update the post when i do)
http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/331482394

I did also spend some time trying to use the Freeze Hover to get to wonder tower, but it kept failing for some reason, maybe i need more practice - although I'm not sure there are any loading zones there because you have to get in from Wonder City anyway and I'm pretty sure that the Wonder Tower you see from Arkham City and the Arkham City you see from Wonder Tower are both textures.  Still no more major sequence breaks, unless that Sharpie thing works out... Sad

OH HELL YES EDIT: Just come up with a slew of new sequence breaks.  Only the odd fight or predator that is skipped nothing major like skipping the entire museum or something.

Anyway, too tired to make a proper vid now, but the following things can now be skipped in both NG and NG+:

*Fighting Joker's goons in Collapsed Streets (after Batman collapses to the floor the first time in a normal game)
* Predator against Joker's goons in Wonder City
* Combat on the way out of the subway after beating Ra's
* Strange's monologue in the Processing Centre
* The fight right after that monologue.
* Possibly (although probably not) the predator section before getting the elevator up Wonder Tower

With all of this I think I can get a Batman-Only run down to 1:40 but until I get a HD TV i can't record any runs for submission.  I'll still be streaming though.
Has anyone tried the grappling into wonder tower without breaking the "MAINTENANCE" password console glitch during protocol 10? You can get into wonder tower without the guards being able to see you and take them all out. This is up to a minute faster than the original way, especially if you know where all the guards are as they will not come to you and detective mode does not reveal them. But then after the cut scene the game doesn't load properly and you have to reset. This is at least what happens on ps3. Wondering if this works on xbox or pc.
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I take it you mean using the Freeze Hover to get within grappling range like when you go back up to the exploded tower?

I've never had any trouble with the game not loading after that.  I've only tried it on NG+ though I don't see why it wouldn't work with NG, and I only first found that yesterday.  I would have used it in my streamed casual run had I not wrecked it partway through.
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DarthKnight: 2012-09-10 01:13:31 pm
DarthKnight: 2012-09-10 01:12:41 pm
Quote from RoboSparkle:
Anyway, too tired to make a proper vid now, but the following things can now be skipped in both NG and NG+:

*Fighting Joker's goons in Collapsed Streets (after Batman collapses to the floor the first time in a normal game)
* Predator against Joker's goons in Wonder City
* Combat on the way out of the subway after beating Ra's
* Strange's monologue in the Processing Centre
* The fight right after that monologue.
* Possibly (although probably not) the predator section before getting the elevator up Wonder Tower


Also, wow, how in the world do you skip all those sections you mention. That's ridiculous

Quote from RoboSparkle:
I take it you mean using the Freeze Hover to get within grappling range like when you go back up to the exploded tower?

I've never had any trouble with the game not loading after that.  I've only tried it on NG+ though I don't see why it wouldn't work with NG, and I only first found that yesterday.  I would have used it in my streamed casual run had I not wrecked it partway through.


Nah I mean just grapple up. If you grapple boost up to the central pillar below the tower and glide off with the camera pointed up, you can grapple up. By doing this you are invisible and after you beat this part, on the ps3, I am not able to skip the cinematic at all, and when it loads where Batman should be watching Joker on TV it just shows blackness with snow. This doesn't happen to you on xbox?

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RoboSparkle: 2012-09-12 12:36:36 pm
RoboSparkle: 2012-09-12 06:08:18 am
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There will be a tutorial vid but:

Joker's Collapsed Streets and Wonder City goons - where I go OOB in Collapsed Streets by entering the door from the wrong side and then jump in the water it is possible (may need the Line Launcher Tightrope to get high enough, I haven't tried without yet) to glide to the door that connects the Wonder Tower Base to the Wonder City corridor (where you get the "this world is doomed" bit) The floor isn't solid so you'll fall to your death but you can do a checkpoint restart and it'll respawn you at the bit where Batman falls to the floor the second time.

Subway Combat after Ra's: Go out of the exit that you use at the end of the game (Processing Center) you can use the Line Launcher to get on top of the Riddler Trophy case and then Gel the ceiling. From Processing Center, it's tough to explain but you need to glide under the Bowery and Grapple Boost up to one of the glass ceilings over the shopping center bit (bear in mind the Bowery won't have loaded so most of it is textures).  From there find something high to grapple boost off and glide to where Sharp is and you'll hit a loading zone on the way there so you can save him.

Processing Center fight: After you have scanned all the helicopters, go to the south end of Arkham City (near the guard room) and there is a building with two riddler pads on it and a skylight between them (I think it has hotel written on one side). Stand in the middle-ish and look south and you will see two vents (i think they're vents) that you can grapple to if you're standing in the right spot.  Grapple boost to the left one and hold right and you'll climb into the building.  From there you can glide to the subway loading zone (on top of the stairs going down into the subway) and walk or Line Launch across.  There are a few areas you can safely fall down to near where the TITAN container is and enter collapsed streets.

Predator section before going up Wonder Tower: Haven't done it yet, but you can get to the back of the Collapsed Streets door from the subway OOB area and then (possibly) glide into the elevator without loading the guards.  Not sure if this will work though, I can do it earlier in the game but all it does is play Strange's "what do you think you are doing Wayne? I have won..." speech and you don't go anywhere, and then it doesn't load Wonder Tower. EDIT: This doesn't work, I need to load that room before I can get the elevator up to Wonder Tower Sad

Ok never tried it just boosting up, although it only took me three grenades before I had enough height so worth a shot.  The only ill effect I got was that detective mode wouldn't switch on against Joker's Snipers.

EDIT:  Wow, boosting was pretty effective, nice find!  Still not had any problems afterwards just the same odd deactivation of detective mode, but by then I don't need it anymore anyway...

EDIT 2: Invisible Room Glitch: http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/331948556 there's a couple of places I've found to replicate this but this was my first and most fun time Smiley
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RoboSparkle: 2012-09-15 10:56:07 am
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New glitch found while messing about:

Nice find XD
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So I managed to go OoB in the Museum (sort of - I actually go OoB in the Bowery and enter Museum from the wrong direction) and it broke my game because it saves your location but doesn't load a floor so I just fall under the level every time I load my game now Sad

On the plus side I backed up my file first so I only lose my Riddler's Revenge records.  Video to follow...
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RoboSparkle: 2012-10-14 09:46:21 am
RoboSparkle: 2012-09-30 02:42:39 pm
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Ok so I lied about the Museum OOB video.  I think it's somewhere on Twitch.  But I have new PBs for the Batman-Only categories.

http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/333976552 NG Hard Mode Batman Only (Part 1) - 1:41:54 RTA
http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/333985213 NG Hard Mode Batman Only (Part 2) - 1:41:54 RTA

There was a bit of a problem with XSplit and it stopped broadcasting between the Church and the end of the Steel Mill.  You can tell from the splits it was mostly average but not brilliant.  I came up with a couple of new timesavers and then totally forgot to do them Wink

http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/333335507 NG+ Batman Only - 1:38:08 RTA

Both of them have about 2-3 minutes of improvements possible.  In NG I screwed up Freeze and the "Strange's Speech" skip in particular and some of the fights were nowhere near optimised (the first ninja section did not go so well). 

The NG+ one involved me losing the better part of 3 minutes trying to do the extended version of the Sewer OOB glitch (which would have saved 1 minute), but on the other hand I had an amazing predator section against the Tyger guards at the Wonder Tower Base - and I hadn't actually practiced doing that in NG+ from the glitched entrance, and I screwed up the first takedown which ended up working massively in my favour!

I think I'm done for now, I'll resume attempts when I have a HD TV and can actually record in SDA-quality 720p.  For now I might move on to looking at a "All Riddler trophies" route to see what that would look like, or actually do some of the Riddler Revenge challenges.  Or, y'know, play something else!

EDIT - New Record for Batman Only NG+ 1:34:25 RTA
http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/335487371 - Part 1
http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/b/335498001 - Part 2

I wasn't recording this which is a good thing because if I had I'd be tempted to submit and it really isn't there yet.  Some of the fights still look really sloppy and the Freeze fight cost time because I failed to manipulate his pathing properly.  Getting into the Steel Mill the second time sucked too, and there's just a general lack of refinement about the whole run that ultimately would only save another minute or so but it needs to look more polished before I'll be happy with it.  My target was sub-1:35 RTA but frankly I pulled that number out of thin air cos it 'seemed' right rather than actually calculating what the final time should be
We all pull times out of thin air and then we break them and do it again until we get close enough to the real run =P

Just keep on and you'll get there, no doubt!
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Wow, over 2 months since an update!  My excuse is I've been busy with work and AGDQ practice and there hasn't been a lot of improvements anyway.  There are a couple of new glitches though.

http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/c/1790661
http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/c/1790669
i see you are on the SDA charity marathon for arkham city.  i dont think i will be able to watch it, but i will watch the vod later.  good luck robo!  i think arkham city is a fantastic game to do commentary with so i think it will be a very entertaining performance!
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RoboSparkle: 2013-04-01 01:44:11 pm
RoboSparkle: 2013-03-30 05:39:40 am
RoboSparkle: 2013-03-29 01:59:48 am
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Back in Bat!  So this thread needs a bump due to WR HYPE!  With some tight playing (and faster strats, actually it was mainly the faster strats) I beat Darthknight's Normal mode run on SDA by over 3 minutes and got a 2:00:09 RTA playing in Hard mode.  However, I died.  And I missed the extended sewer glitch, and I had to do a checkpoint restart one of the Catwoman episodes otherwise I would have died.  Also I dicked around with Strange's bodyguards instead of beating them quickly, and screwed up on Joker's Snipers. So yeah, a LOT of costly mistakes in that one, but a lot of the fights I was very happy with and the run is starting to take form.

Video here: http://www.twitch.tv/robo_sparkle/c/2085395

In other news, I'm thinking of dropping Batman Only as a category.  A couple of reasons for this:

1) Existing SDA run is already Batman + Catwoman
2) Story-wise,  they're designed to be played together (because otherwise Catwoman just randomly disappears and reappears during the game with no explanations at any point) and I'm pretty sure the only reason they're separable is DLC
3) You can't do Batman-Only in GOTY and there is no reason (other than speedrunning a game that isn't that popular to run) for someone to buy a non-GOTY version if they don't already have it.
4) The differences between the Batman sections is minimal at best (you get Crit Strikes sooner and have a lot more experience to play with, that's about it)

New target, I'm pretty sure I can sub-1:55 on this so I'll get there first and then see how much time I think I can take off after that.

Update:  I've also started routing 100% for an upcoming "1000 followers" stream (date/time TBC) and have a preliminary run-route in there, there's a bit of randomness with Zsasz thrown into the mix now but the real bugger is the "random acts of violence" as it looks like you have to get close to all the areas where they spawn and just hope they appear, basically.  Looking at everything included it will probably take 7-8 hours until this gets refined/practiced.

Basically what I've included in the definition of 100% is on your results screen, so all sidequests (Batman and Catwoman) and all 440 Riddler secrets, the idea being that when everything is completed and you load up the game, the loading screen says "Arkham Site secured and ready for shutdown".  This is Story Mode only, not Story+

I also added a list of glitches and shortcuts to the Knowledge Base (or all the ones I could think of at the time, anyway...) It's Here
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RoboSparkle: 2013-04-15 03:57:09 pm
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So my 100% time for this game stands at 6:46:57 with a few deaths, a trolling Random Act of Violence and missing a Riddle in the Blunder Tower.  I could probably sub 6 this in time.  The Blunder Tower, I'm sure, was the single factor preventing this run from being sub-6:30.

Videos Part 1 Part 2

In case you're wondering, I've defined 100% story mode by what the game counts in order to get you to the "Arkham City Secured and ready for shutdown" splash screen when you load the game i.e. Completing the story, all sidequests and collecting all Riddler collectables (both Batman and Catwoman)
The Dork Knight himself.
Damn, talk about makin this game seem short.
Saw most of the 100% run. I'll watch some more of it tomorrow. I was wondering on the Bane fight, could you put down 3 lots of explosive gel around the room before talking to him. Setup a 5x combo when the guards come in, quick detonate the gel hopefully knocking all or the majority down then use the batarang takedown on those knocked down? Might be a lot quicker if it works.