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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-28 01:34:46 am
The BaldurManiac
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Watch and enjoy!
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I've beaten the game several times since it came out and I would be happy to see a speed run. Maybe I could even help with somethings but It's been a while since I played it so I might have forgotten more than I think... A question tho: are you going to run it whit a party or solo?
The BaldurManiac
solo.

1 sorcerer

p.s: i never finished this game with a party and i started playing 4 years ago... Alwais played solo.
Let's fight to computer!
I strongly suggest ditching the MIDI music.
i would really like to see it, i played a couple of tim eon bg2 but didnt finish it

its was great and huge: i woul dlike to see ho wu finsih this game quick, i was impress by the bg1 run so bg2 sohuld be pretty nice
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I strongly suggest ditching the MIDI music.

what MIDI music?


I've just watched your first segment and I'm really interested to see a run of this game. So keep up the work.

btw: The sound seemed to be a bit strange to me (and I don't mean the french voices ;-))..how did you record it?
The BaldurManiac
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what MIDI music?


I've just watched your first segment and I'm really interested to see a run of this game. So keep up the work.

btw: The sound seemed to be a bit strange to me (and I don't mean the french voices ;-))..how did you record it?

lol... i got like, the uber sorround sound options... it sound very weird but i like it, im weird.
http://s37.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1P2Y1RPPE7DA717H0D379RHEGT
Here is an update, from chap 0-1 without any single mistake
Except 1, i fucked up my name at the start HAHAHA

Also im uploading the chap 1-2 at this very moment, Perfectly done... it worth watching Smiley
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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-22 05:31:04 am
The BaldurManiac
http://s38.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=3R0N9QBCO5YVT1FF4YI7FOXG16
or
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=6136394b06cb43c15cb2c816
Chap 1-2
Must see Tongue
Your almighty lordship
Wow, that is brilliant. I never knew you could knock that container...
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Wow, that is brilliant. I never knew you could knock that container...

Yeah, I was going to recommend that he'd kill the bandits in the sewers of the temple district, since you can simply sell that gear to Roger and fetch something close to, or even over the 15000 with that, but this method is easier.

Damurdoc, what will your spell progression look like? Here's what I've seen so far:

Level 1:
- Magic Missile
- Chromatic Orb
- Identify
- Protection from Petrification
- Find Familiar

Level 2:
- Invisibility
- Mirror Image
- Knock
9 Stinking Cloud

Level 3:
- Melf's Minute Meteor
- Haste
9 Fireball

Level 4:
8 Spider Spawn
9 Stoneskin

I'm just curious, if you get the Find Familiar spell, why not use it straightaway in the beginning of the game for the hitpoint bonusses? Not that you'd need it, since you did an excellent job of avoiding being hit at all in those two segments you posted. I'm assuming the choice for your alignment was based on the Familiar you get with it? And if so, who do you plan on pick pocketing?

Also, why'd you chose Stinking Cloud over Web? Generally, Web is found to be more useful than Stinking Cloud, and the combination of Spider Spawn and Web works nicely as well.

A few questions about your character creation:

Why go for a Human race? The half-elf race can get the same stats, but with a few bonusses such as resistances to sleep and charm. The elfs get even higher resistances (or so the game tells you, you can't find it back anywhere in the game itsself), but have different stats.

And why get 18 constitution? A sorcerer doesn't get any bonus to hit points for a constitution of above 16, or do you plan on using Tenser's Transformation a lot later on? (In which case you do get extra hit points for having a constitution of over 16.) Not that getting a constitution of 16 will free enough points to get any AC bonusses out of your dexterity, though.

PS. Sorry for the many questions, but I've played BG2 a lot myself and even played with the idea of doing a speed run (but discarded the idea because a run of BG2 + ToB would be about 5 hours long), so I just want to know everything about the run Smiley
Try to do a run of it with english language.
Smiley
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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-22 01:47:05 pm
The BaldurManiac
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Damurdoc, what will your spell progression look like? Here's what I've seen so far:

Level 1:
- Magic Missile
- Chromatic Orb
- Identify
- Protection from Petrification
- Find Familiar

Level 2:
- Invisibility
- Mirror Image
- Knock
9 Stinking Cloud

Level 3:
- Melf's Minute Meteor
- Haste
9 Fireball

Level 4:
8 Spider Spawn
9 Stoneskin

I'm just curious, if you get the Find Familiar spell, why not use it straightaway in the beginning of the game for the hitpoint bonusses?

I dont use the familiar for the hitpoint bonus Tongue you will see when i get on the pirate island (did you see what alignement i chose?)
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Not that you'd need it, since you did an excellent job of avoiding being hit at all in those two segments you posted. I'm assuming the choice for your alignment was based on the Familiar you get with it? And if so, who do you plan on pick pocketing?

Im not gonna spoil anything Cheesy
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Also, why'd you chose Stinking Cloud over Web? Generally, Web is found to be more useful than Stinking Cloud, and the combination of Spider Spawn and Web works nicely as well.

Im not gonna use stinkin cloud anyway... i didnt know what to take since those spells are a waste of time.
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A few questions about your character creation:

Why go for a Human race? The half-elf race can get the same stats, but with a few bonusses such as resistances to sleep and charm. The elfs get even higher resistances (or so the game tells you, you can't find it back anywhere in the game itsself), but have different stats.

No reason... i just like the humans, and it doesnt mater anway
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And why get 18 constitution? A sorcerer doesn't get any bonus to hit points for a constitution of above 16, or do you plan on using Tenser's Transformation a lot later on? (In which case you do get extra hit points for having a constitution of over 16.) Not that getting a constitution of 16 will free enough points to get any AC bonusses out of your dexterity, though.

I will use the tenser transformation, dont worry about my dex, you will see
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PS. Sorry for the many questions, but I've played BG2 a lot myself and even played with the idea of doing a speed run (but discarded the idea because a run of BG2 + ToB would be about 5 hours long), so I just want to know everything about the run Smiley

Yeah im not doing TOB, mayb i will someday, but i dont like TOB too much.
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Try to do a run of it with english language.
Smiley

No.
1- I dont have the english version
2- who cares, youre here to see the run, not the storyline
Your almighty lordship
I personally hate the fact that you're keeping secrets... but unlike everybody else, you seem to know what you're doing.
I would suggest using a thief as your main character, cause their traps can pretty much can everything in a second and they can use anykinf of magic equipment.

The thief-guild path is also shorter than the vampire-path, if i remeber correctly so you wont be hurt by choosing a thief.

-When you fight irenicus in the asylum just use fireballs to punch through his defence.

For the last fight versus irenicusyour thief, with improved haste and several boost, should be able to kill irenicus in a single attack, if every other character casts a spell breakers at irenicus, before you attack.

BTW: If you want to speed things up increase the fps in the options menu, since more fps means, that the game actually runs faster  Grin
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julien: 2005-10-22 10:20:33 pm
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BTW: If you want to speed things up increase the fps in the options menu, since more fps means, that the game actually runs faster  Grin

I don't think that that's a good idea.
We should keep the default FPS for all the Infinity Engine Game runs.

And I still think that you should turn off that surround stuff. It just sounds awful in my opinion.
The BaldurManiac
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I would suggest using a thief as your main character, cause their traps can pretty much can everything in a second and they can use anykinf of magic equipment.

The thief-guild path is also shorter than the vampire-path, if i remeber correctly so you wont be hurt by choosing a thief.

-When you fight irenicus in the asylum just use fireballs to punch through his defence.

For the last fight versus irenicusyour thief, with improved haste and several boost, should be able to kill irenicus in a single attack, if every other character casts a spell breakers at irenicus, before you attack.

BTW: If you want to speed things up increase the fps in the options menu, since more fps means, that the game actually runs faster  Grin

You dont really know what you're talking about right?... anyway, a thief is No.

And increasing the fps would be against the rule. If it's not, then fuck it, i aint cheating.
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You dont really know what you're talking about right?... anyway, a thief is No.

And increasing the fps would be against the rule. If it's not, then fuck it, i aint cheating.


I played through the game about 6 times, using various combinations and completed it 2 times on multiplayer, using customized partys. So i guess, that i know a little abit bg2 and ttob  Wink

But my last game is about 2 years ago and i am at an age where memory starts fading  :P. So it could be that my memories of the overpowered thied could be because he was able to kill melisa in ttob with traps only, within a single frame. The same was true for dragons. A thief could even kill both blue dragons with a few trap preperation. I dont know, what you base your idea of me having know clue about bg2, but fireballs ignore most protectiv spells. And a thiefs attaking out of the shadows can kill irenicus with a single attack, if you break all his spells before striking.

The BaldurManiac
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I played through the game about 6 times, using various combinations and completed it 2 times on multiplayer, using customized partys. So i guess, that i know a little abit bg2 and ttob  Wink

But my last game is about 2 years ago and i am at an age where memory starts fading  :P. So it could be that my memories of the overpowered thied could be because he was able to kill melisa in ttob with traps only, within a single frame. The same was true for dragons. A thief could even kill both blue dragons with a few trap preperation. I dont know, what you base your idea of me having know clue about bg2, but fireballs ignore most protectiv spells. And a thiefs attaking out of the shadows can kill irenicus with a single attack, if you break all his spells before striking.


Im not gonna use fireballs watch my videos and you will see.

The only good thing about the thief is his traps, afer that the sorcerer is just 10x better in term of SPEED.

There is no potion of speed to help our little thief in the beggining, and dont forget that it is not baldur's gate 1 Tongue
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The only good thing about the thief is his traps, afer that the sorcerer is just 10x better in term of SPEED.

There is no potion of speed to help our little thief in the beggining, and dont forget that it is not baldur's gate 1 Tongue

That's why I would suggest a F/M/T
He has access to spells and thieving abillities.
Disadvantage is, that he doesn't level up that fast.
But don't underestimate backstabbing...
On high Thief Levels the backsabbing factor is 5 and you can easily do over 100 damage with only one hit.
Using breach etc. on Irenicus and then backstabbing him seems to be a good idea to me.
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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-22 11:58:46 pm
The BaldurManiac
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That's why I would suggest a F/M/T
He has access to spells and thieving abillities.
Disadvantage is, that he doesn't level up that fast.
But don't underestimate backstabbing...
On high Thief Levels the backsabbing factor is 5 and you can easily do over 100 damage with only one hit.
Using breach etc. on Irenicus and then backstabbing him seems to be a good idea to me.

i dont have time to level up.
It's a speed run remember?

Also, to make my strategy work, i need to use scrolls.

Making a f/m/t would'nt work, i need Haste in the beggining and i dont think it will allow me.
And also.. my theif abilities will sux big time, my trap will miss all the time and i wont have invisibility because i will put all my % on trap, but nothing on hiding and stealth

Adding more difficulty by adding more LUCK in the run would be pointless.
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julien: 2005-10-23 01:04:08 am
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i dont have time to level up.
It's a speed run remember?

I did the BG1 Speed Run, remember? So you don't have to explain to me that you're doing a run ;-)
Leveling up doesn't take so much time.
And it might still be faster because you could use  some different tactics with a F/M/T etc...

I also think you should be able to get Level 3 spells at the beginning with a F/M/T but I'm not sure. Haven't played BG2 for a long time.

Also If you play a F/M/T you don't need to put any skill points on stealth because you still have access to spells and can use the Invisibility Spell.

We're only trying to throw in some suggestions and thoughts, but you seem to react a bit rude.
The BaldurManiac
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I did the BG1 Speed Run, remember? So you don't have to explain to me that you're doing a run ;-)
Leveling up doesn't take so much time.
And it might still be faster because you could use  some different tactics with a F/M/T etc...

Well it does take time when you dont really have to do it Tongue
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I also think you should be able to get Level 3 spells at the beginning with a F/M/T but I'm not sure.

Me neither.. but it still is an horrible idea i think because even setting up the traps will take more time then what i was planning to do
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Also If you play a F/M/T you don't need to put any skill points on stealth because you still have access to spells and can use the Invisibility Spell.

True, but you have to
1. find the scroll (if you cant get it at the start, if you get haste you cant get invisibility)
2. sleep all the time (sleeping can make you waste a load of time, and sometime you will have to get a place to sleep before using any spells, which doesnt make any sens to me)
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We're only trying to throw in some suggestions and thoughts, but you seem to react a bit rude.

Dont worry about it, I'm just kinda on the nerves because im trying to pull out the chap 2-3 perfectly and im loosing my sanity haha!
BTW i saw ur run, and you did a great job, loved it... I played baldur's gate 1 alot.
The BaldurManiac
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=d2c921cdb1422c068f8d5629
Next chapter is seperated in 3 Because of the EXTREME randomness of the detection of the secrets.
Sometime it takes 2 seconds to detect the secret door, sometime takes 30 minutes.
THis is part 1

uploading part 2
The BaldurManiac
http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=4c2cbc410d6d018244e7398c
Part 2

http://www.filefactory.com/get/f.php?f=d198dfb23d946e9bc6dbb135
Part 3
I think you're doing a great job on the run, loving it so far. And you can keep your secrets, I know you don't wanna spoil the fun fot others and tbh i like that coz it makes me wanna watch the run even more. But try no to be rude, that I don't like Tongue But keep up the good work on the run Wink