Baldur's gate 2 speed run FINISHED 1:25:41

DAMURDOC

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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-26 04:02:25 am

2005-10-26 03:58:30 am

The BaldurManiac

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There seems to be some major audio/video desyncing :(.

I dont know what desyncing is, but i do know that the videos are fine.

I dont see any difference, except the size.

part 10 done, enjoy

Ekarderif

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Ekarderif: 2005-10-26 04:06:25 am

2005-10-26 04:04:33 am

Your almighty lordship

The audio doesn't match up with the video towards the end of the videos. Are you using the LAME encoder provided on the FAQs page?

DAMURDOC

2005-10-26 04:09:00 am

The BaldurManiac

I dont know about the faq page.... but the video is only late by 1-2 seconds at the end, im sure it can be fixed....

julien

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julien: 2005-10-26 11:05:19 am

2005-10-26 11:05:01 am

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The audio doesn't match up with the video towards the end of the videos. Are you using the LAME encoder provided on the FAQs page?

No only towards the end of the video. At least part 10 is async right from the beginning of the video.
That's terrible. You should check your videos before uploading, Damurdoc.

henkie

2005-10-26 11:08:03 am

Did you append several videos to eachother? Because doing that (without editing, or editing and appending all at the same time) will cause the audio to desynch, as quite often the audio length is not exactly as long as the video. Here is a link to the FAQ that Ekardif mentioned. And here is a topic I started because I also had some problems with audio and video desynching.

DAMURDOC

2005-10-26 11:24:06 am

The BaldurManiac

how do i check the khz of the source, so i can put the same for my audio...

henkie

2005-10-26 02:30:05 pm

From what julien says, I doubt it's the kHz, but I usually simply check it with Media Player Classic. With MPC, you can just play the clip, right click in the video screen and select Properties. Then it displays the bitrate of the video and the audio, as well as the sampling rate of the audio.

If you don't have Media Player Classic, you can also check it in VirtualDub. Go to Audio -> Conversion and then it should display the sampling rate between the brackets behind the option No Change. Normally, the audio will be 44100 kHz.

However, if your audio desynchs from the beginning of a segment, it is probably caused by a problem in the recording. I believe Kibumbi mentioned something like that in a thread I linked above. The best way to fix something like that would be with AviSynth. Then wirte a script as follows (shamelessly copied and slightly altered from ballofsnow):

- Install Avisynth 2.56
- Open with notepad and write a script like this:

clip1=AviSource("name1.avi")
DelayAudio(clip1,-0.5)

- or, more compressed:

clip1=DelayAudio(AviSource("name1.avi"),-0.5)

- Save it and rename to .avs
- Use open video file in VirtualDub and open the .avs script. Hopefully you won't get any errors..
- Compress file and you're done.

This would play the audio 0.5 seconds earlier than it was recorded. You'll need to play around with it a bit in order to get the delay time just right.

From what julien says, I doubt it's the kHz, but I usually simply check it with Media Player Classic. With MPC, you can just play the clip, right click in the video screen and select Properties. Then it displays the bitrate of the video and the audio, as well as the sampling rate of the audio.

If you don't have Media Player Classic, you can also check it in VirtualDub. Go to Audio -> Conversion and then it should display the sampling rate between the brackets behind the option No Change. Normally, the audio will be 44100 kHz.

However, if your audio desynchs from the beginning of a segment, it is probably caused by a problem in the recording. I believe Kibumbi mentioned something like that in a thread I linked above. The best way to fix something like that would be with [url=http://www.avisynth.org/]AviSynth[/url]. Then wirte a script as follows (shamelessly copied and slightly altered from ballofsnow):

- Install Avisynth 2.56
- Open with notepad and write a script like this:

clip1=AviSource("name1.avi")
DelayAudio(clip1,-0.5)

- or, more compressed:

clip1=DelayAudio(AviSource("name1.avi"),-0.5)
 
- Save it and rename to .avs
- Use open video file in VirtualDub and open the .avs script. Hopefully you won't get any errors..
- Compress file and you're done.

This would play the audio 0.5 seconds earlier than it was recorded. You'll need to play around with it a bit in order to get the delay time just right.

DAMURDOC

2005-10-26 10:07:05 pm

The BaldurManiac

i changed it for 44100 kHz and everything work fine now, im gonna re-rehost them.

Sorry guys.

im also gonna work on the next segment tonight

Ekarderif

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Ekarderif: 2005-10-27 10:11:59 pm

2005-10-27 04:27:02 am

Your almighty lordship

To those who are attempting to download the run, I apologize for the inconvenience. The first version that DAMURDOC posted was both bigger and more popular than I had realized, which thus killed my bandwidth. This should all be fixed within 12-14 hours.

Edit: The limit has been removed. Everything should be back to normal.

gracjanski

2005-10-27 10:57:40 pm

polak

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http://fengb-3.student.rose-hulman.edu/baldursgate2/
Here you go guys, all the parts are here, except 2, the last 2 ones i need to do.

you are uploading the vids now, arent you? Because I see only part 1, which file size is bigger and bigger (starting with 10 mb, now @ 40 MB

DAMURDOC

2005-10-27 11:27:17 pm

The BaldurManiac

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you are uploading the vids now, arent you? Because I see only part 1, which file size is bigger and bigger (starting with 10 mb, now @ 40 MB

Yes, and guess what?
I finished my run!!!

All of it will be posted on http://fengb-3.student.rose-hulman.edu/baldursgate2/BG2%20run/

my time?
1:25:41

1 hour 25 minutes and 41 seconds.

It will be uploaded tonight.

gracjanski

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gracjanski: 2005-10-27 11:41:56 pm

2005-10-27 11:41:08 pm

polak

j´ai vu la premier chapitre et maintenant j´attends a la deuxieme chapitre

I have all parts (there are 11 right?) now, but not the second :/

€: Ah Isee, the second is uploaded now, or ready Smiley

DAMURDOC

2005-10-28 01:33:47 am

The BaldurManiac

http://torrentspy.com/download.asp?id=448889
Torrent of my run

ballofsnow

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ballofsnow: 2005-10-28 02:27:41 am

2005-10-28 02:22:17 am

I really, really hope that you kept the uncompressed source files of your 11 segments because the encoding job is just bad, bad, and bad. So bad that I doubt that Radix would accept it.

Please tell me you kept the source files, then maybe your project can be salvaged.

For those in the know, the video bitrate is 289 kbps at 640x480, and the audio is 224 kbps. You can come up wth your own conclusions.

DAMURDOC

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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-28 02:39:56 am

2005-10-28 02:27:54 am

The BaldurManiac

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I really, really hope that you kept the uncompressed source files of your 11 segments because the encoding job is just bad, bad, and bad. So bad that I doubt that Radix would accept it.

Actually, I'm sure that he wouldn't accept it.

Please tell me you kept the source files, then maybe your project can be salvaged.

For those in the know, the video bitrate is 289 kbps at 640x480, and the audio is 224 kbps. You can come up wth your own conclusions.

No i did not keep it.

Why, is the video or the audio wrong?

From my point of view, the video is clear and the sound is OK.

But you tell me.

also, even uncompressed, that's pretty much how it looked like.

I tryed, and even uncompressed, i can change everything in the video and get a better quality if needed, so calm down.

ballofsnow

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ballofsnow: 2005-10-28 03:04:11 am

2005-10-28 03:01:39 am

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No i did not keep it.

One thing I've learned is to always keep an uncompressed source file, or a souce file encoded at very high quality (4000+ kbps). If you're running out of hard drive space, just burn onto cd/dvd.

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Why, is the video or the audio wrong?

It's the ratio that's strange. You have almost a 1:1 ratio of the bitrate, when usually you have a ratio of 10:1 or higher. It's like you tipped the scale of quality, taking from video and giving to audio.

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From my point of view, the video is clear and the sound is OK.

But you tell me.

also, even uncompressed, that's pretty much how it looked like.

Now that I look again, this game is mostly still scenes, so you can get away with using a low bitrate, but I think in this case you went a little too far. Anyways, since you don't have the source files anymore, there's no point ranting about it. You'll need to enode a normal quality version at 320*240. My recommended changes:

For your 640x480 version, re-encode the audio to 128 kbps.

For the normal quality version, resize to 320x240, set the audio to 64 kbps, and use the same video bitrate as the 640x480 version, ~300 kbps.

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I tryed, and even uncompressed, i can change everything in the video and get a better quality if needed, so calm down.

So.. wait, do you have the source files or not?

[quote]No i did not keep it.[/quote]
One thing I've learned is to always keep an uncompressed source file, or a souce file encoded at very high quality (4000+ kbps). If you're running out of hard drive space, just burn onto cd/dvd.

[quote]Why, is the video or the audio wrong?[/quote]
It's the ratio that's strange. You have almost a 1:1 ratio of the bitrate, when usually you have a ratio of 10:1 or higher. It's like you tipped the scale of quality, taking from video and giving to audio.

[quote]From my point of view, the video is clear and the sound is OK.

But you tell me.

also, even uncompressed, that's pretty much how it looked like.[/quote]
Now that I look again, this game is mostly still scenes, so you can get away with using a low bitrate, but I think in this case you went a little too far. Anyways, since you don't have the source files anymore, there's no point ranting about it. You'll need to enode a normal quality version at 320*240. My recommended changes:

For your 640x480 version, re-encode the audio to 128 kbps.

For the normal quality version, resize to 320x240, set the audio to 64 kbps, and use the same video bitrate as the 640x480 version, ~300 kbps.

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[quote]I tryed, and even uncompressed, i can change everything in the video and get a better quality if needed, so calm down.[/quote]

So.. wait, do you have the source files or not?

DAMURDOC

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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-28 03:10:09 am

2005-10-28 03:03:51 am

The BaldurManiac

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One thing I've learned is to always keep an uncompressed source file, or a souce file encoded at very high quality (4000+). If you're running out of hard drive space, just burn onto cd/dvd.

It's the ratio that's strange. You have almost a 1:1 ratio of the bitrate, when usually you have a ratio of 10:1 or higher. It's like you tipped the scale of quality, taking from video and giving to audio.

Now that I look again, this game is mostly still scenes, so you can get away with using a low bitrate, but I think in this case you went a little too far. Anyways, since you don't have the source files anymore, there's no point ranting about it. You'll need to enode a normal quality version at 320*240. My recommended changes:

For your 640x480 version, re-encode the audio to 128 kbps.

For the normal quality version, resize to 320x240, set the audio to 64 kbps, and use the same video bitrate as the 640x480 version, ~300 kbps.

edit-

So.. wait, do you have the source files or not?

il check it out, thanks

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So.. wait, do you have the source files or not?

no

[quote]
One thing I've learned is to always keep an uncompressed source file, or a souce file encoded at very high quality (4000+). If you're running out of hard drive space, just burn onto cd/dvd.

It's the ratio that's strange. You have almost a 1:1 ratio of the bitrate, when usually you have a ratio of 10:1 or higher. It's like you tipped the scale of quality, taking from video and giving to audio.

Now that I look again, this game is mostly still scenes, so you can get away with using a low bitrate, but I think in this case you went a little too far. Anyways, since you don't have the source files anymore, there's no point ranting about it. You'll need to enode a normal quality version at 320*240. My recommended changes:

For your 640x480 version, re-encode the audio to 128 kbps.

For the normal quality version, resize to 320x240, set the audio to 64 kbps, and use the same video bitrate as the 640x480 version, ~300 kbps.

edit-

So.. wait, do you have the source files or not?[/quote]

il check it out, thanks
[quote]

So.. wait, do you have the source files or not?[/quote]
no

DAMURDOC

2005-10-28 03:22:20 am

The BaldurManiac

i tryed the normal quality, Its alright but obviously not better

is 640 supposed to be high quality?

ballofsnow

2005-10-28 03:34:39 am

Since normal quality has a required res of 320x240, that puts 640x480 in the high quality category.

Ekarderif

2005-10-28 03:36:34 am

Your almighty lordship

Hmph, I'm sorry to do this but my stupid school didn't finalize the setup of my second network card and I appear to be overflowing once again. So just go ahead and grab it off the torrent. I'll keep a copy locally, but that'll just go straight to Radix it looks like.

DAMURDOC

2005-10-28 03:37:09 am

The BaldurManiac

i put it on 1024 and the quality is even better... but i guess it's still not good enought.

ballofsnow

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ballofsnow: 2005-10-28 04:04:09 am

2005-10-28 03:57:17 am

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i put it on 1024 and the quality is even better... but i guess it's still not good enought.

You mean newly captured video? 1000 is probably enough since the game has very low motion scenes. But this is just guessing from my end.

Anyways, let's not talk anymore about quality settings in this thread. Just PM me if you need help.

btw, I noticed your game is in french. You live in Quebec? France? I'm a Montrealer myself. Smiley

DAMURDOC

2005-10-28 10:29:55 am

The BaldurManiac

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You mean newly captured video? 1000 is probably enough since the game has very low motion scenes. But this is just guessing from my end.

Anyways, let's not talk anymore about quality settings in this thread. Just PM me if you need help.

btw, I noticed your game is in french. You live in Quebec? France? I'm a Montrealer myself. Smiley

quebecois

I gotta make a normal, low and high quality version, wish me luck.

gracjanski

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gracjanski: 2005-10-28 10:32:36 am

2005-10-28 10:31:37 am

polak

The quality is good, unnecessary to make trouble about that

need only nr9 but i cant get to
http://fengb-3.student.rose-hulman.edu/baldursgate2/BG2%20run/

Sad

DAMURDOC

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DAMURDOC: 2005-10-28 10:38:27 am

2005-10-28 10:38:10 am

The BaldurManiac

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The quality is good, unnecessary to make trouble about that

need only nr9 but i cant get to
http://fengb-3.student.rose-hulman.edu/baldursgate2/BG2%20run/

Sad

you can try torrent.

It does seem my videos are owning the bandwhich every single time... what a pain lol...