Attempting a Megaman X4 Strict Speed Run: X [locked]

2005-05-12 07:17:02 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I just need some critiques because I am attempting to do one myself.

- Thinking about no items at all (but probably helmet or plasma ugrade)
- No Heart Tanks
- No Energy Tanks
- No Weapon Tanks
- No blue tank thats in Frost Walrus' stage.

Order (In how fast a stage can be completed)

1 Web Spider
2 Magma Dragoon
3 Frost Walrus
4 Stingray
5 Mushroom
6 Peacock
7 Owl
8 Beast

Abusive Tricks being used for this run:

- Dashing + X Bullets = Stronger bullets + Enemy = Less Killing time.

- Dash + small jump constantly.

Boss Notes:

Web Spider:

- Big Shot kills faster than Twin Slasher.

Frost Walrus:

- Take the upstairs route in the beginning instead of the heart tank route.

- Big shots used for clearing Ice Blocks

Mushroom:

- Kill mid-boss with Frost Tower in two ammo shots max.
Mid-boss is only allowed to attack ONCE.

Beast:

- Kill mid-boss with Frost Tower in five ammo shots max.

Questions:

- What kills Red Eye in Owl's stage the fastest?
- Is it worth getting the helmet upgrade?
- Is it worth getting the plasma arm upgrade?

Thread title:

I just need some critiques because I am attempting to do one myself.

- Thinking about no items at all (but probably helmet or plasma ugrade)
- No Heart Tanks
- No Energy Tanks
- No Weapon Tanks
- No blue tank thats in Frost Walrus' stage.

Order (In how fast a stage can be completed)

1 Web Spider
2 Magma Dragoon
3 Frost Walrus
4 Stingray
5 Mushroom
6 Peacock
7 Owl
8 Beast

Abusive Tricks being used for this run:

- Dashing + X Bullets = Stronger bullets + Enemy = Less Killing time.

- Dash + small jump constantly.

Boss Notes:

Web Spider:

- Big Shot kills faster than Twin Slasher.

Frost Walrus:

- Take the upstairs route in the beginning instead of the heart tank route.

- Big shots used for clearing Ice Blocks

Mushroom:

- Kill mid-boss with Frost Tower in two ammo shots max.
Mid-boss is only allowed to attack ONCE.

Beast:

- Kill mid-boss with Frost Tower in five ammo shots max.

Questions:

- What kills Red Eye in Owl's stage the fastest?
- Is it worth getting the helmet upgrade?
- Is it worth getting the plasma arm upgrade?

Satoryu

2005-05-12 12:31:03 pm

Visually Appealing

here's what I think

- get the helmet. it's right there in Peacock's stage. plus it wouldn't hurt to have it
- i would get the buster because charged special weapons are usually a lot better on bosses.
- Dragoon would be better to go after first so that you could use the shortcuts in Spider act 2.
- I'm not sure about taking the upper route in Walrus.
- the red eye in Owl's stage falls to either the plasma shot or Shoryuuken (charged Rising Fire). Otherwise i'm not sure.

Psychochild

Edit history:

Psychochild: 2005-05-12 01:16:11 pm

2005-05-12 01:07:12 pm

I went and looked it up... definately get the helmet upgrade. You lose only a few seconds by doing so, and it's going to be in the middle of the route regardless. And Satoryu, he's going to be avoiding heart tanks, and I'm pretty sure that there's an unavoidable one in a shortcut at one point of the level (Particularly if he's avoiding the air dash) so it isn't a huge deal if he goes through that stage first.

As for the X-Buster upgrade... is Plasma the one that leaves a ball of energy that continues damage upon contact? If so, yeah, go for it. It helps on Slash Beast's mini boss as well as the Sigma Third form, IIRC..

(Sorry for the edits, distracted)

Bp_

2005-05-12 01:09:08 pm

look nice a good run to look at and i hope you do it Smiley

for sur ei will watch it
gl

mikwuyma

2005-05-12 05:14:49 pm

My feelings on The Demon Rush

Like Satoryu said switch Magma Dragoon and Web Spider around, having rising fire in Spider's stage saves a lot of time.

You didn't really specify your conditions. Are you going for fast as possible (any%)? Or fast as possible while collecting nothing (low%)? If you're doing any % then just collect the heart upgrades and sub tanks that are on your way. At least half of the heart upgrades and subtanks don't waste any time, and dodging the heart upgrade in Storm Owl's stage wastes time.

If you are doing any % definitely collect the plasma arm upgrade it saves a ton of time on the slash beast midboss, storm owl midboss, and the first form of Sigma. It also saves time in a few other places. The helmet upgrade is probably worth it, even though unlimited ammo probably doesn't help you in theory, it would allow you to be more aggressive and reckless against the bosses.

If you are doing low% then don't collect anything. It's not necessary to collect a single upgrade in the game and the purpose of low% is to collect as little as possible while going fast.

How is using the buster against Web Spider faster than using twin slasher? You don't have to charge twin slasher, and charged twin slasher shots do more damage than the buster, IIRC.

The midboss in Slash Beast's stage dies fastest to charged plasma shots.

The red eye in Storm Owl's stage dies fastest to a charged plasma shot, then a charged rising fire. If you don't have the arm upgrade (low %) then I think soul body is fastest.

Like Satoryu said switch Magma Dragoon and Web Spider around, having rising fire in Spider's stage saves a lot of time.

You didn't really specify your conditions.  Are you going for fast as possible (any%)?  Or fast as possible while collecting nothing (low%)?  If you're doing any % then just collect the heart upgrades and sub tanks that are on your way.  At least half of the heart upgrades and subtanks don't waste any time, and dodging the heart upgrade in Storm Owl's stage wastes time.

If you are doing any % definitely collect the plasma arm upgrade it saves a ton of time on the slash beast midboss, storm owl midboss, and the first form of Sigma.  It also saves time in a few other places.  The helmet upgrade is probably worth it, even though unlimited ammo probably doesn't help you in theory, it would allow you to be more aggressive and reckless against the bosses.

If you are doing low% then don't collect anything.  It's not necessary to collect a single upgrade in the game and the purpose of low% is to collect as little as possible while going fast.

How is using the buster against Web Spider faster than using twin slasher?  You don't have to charge twin slasher, and charged twin slasher shots do more damage than the buster, IIRC.

The midboss in Slash Beast's stage dies fastest to charged plasma shots.

The red eye in Storm Owl's stage dies fastest to a charged plasma shot, then a charged rising fire.  If you don't have the arm upgrade (low %) then I think soul body is fastest.