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AlphaStrategyGui des.com
It's a good job that everyone picked up on the fact that the game publishers/developers are the ONLY ones who own the copyrights to the games and anything to do with them.

And also please note that - technically - recorded and distributed speedruns are actually illegal to make. They're an unauthorised re-distribution of the original copyrighted work (which recording a videogame falls into). Did the publisher or developer in question give you express prior written consent to record their (legally copyrighted) work and distribute it online? No, no they did not. The only reason companies don't say anything is because no-one is selling them for a profit (or if they are, as in the case of SDA and it's original dvd sets, they're under the radar enough not to get noticed).

I think it's more of an aspect of respecting the player(s) and their run(s) that credit is given. No-one HAS to credit the runners or SDA if they are selling them, seeing as they're re-distributing work that is already illegal. Gaining permission from the runner responsible to sell runs on is something that is desirable, but not actually required (by law).

The chances of a company going mad over the initial recording and then selling of speedruns are very, very slim (although that depends on how mainstream the selling becomes), but they have a right to ask you to not do it.
I'm addicted to games
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It's a good job that everyone picked up on the fact that the game publishers/developers are the ONLY ones who own the copyrights to the games and anything to do with them.

And also please note that - technically - recorded and distributed speedruns are actually illegal to make. They're an unauthorised re-distribution of the original copyrighted work (which recording a videogame falls into).


You're wrong.
Go away.

Should I explain it again to you?
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
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You're wrong.
Go away.

Well, seeing as you completely shot down my comments with SUCH a well thought-out and fact-filled answer, I can't possibly see how I could be right. Radix - The new Sherlock Holmes of the 21st century...
Fucking Weeaboo
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Well, seeing as you completely shot down my comments with SUCH a well thought-out and fact-filled answer, I can't possibly see how I could be right. Radix - The new Sherlock Holmes of the 21st century...


Meanwhile you're hosting copies of commercials and CDs which I'm SURE you didn't ask permission for either.

ZOMG LAWSUIT WAR!
O RLY?
God, this is like a clusterfuck of morons. Andrew, shut the hell up. OMG REDISTRUHBUSTION LOL!

You dumbshit, it gets sent to him. That alone gives him permission.

Christ, you people.
O RLY?
Oh, and about the "games and anything to do with them".


Good thing it isn't the game, only a video displaying things you can do in the game. Think of it as...a free...demo.

A...speed demo. And, where would you put a lot of these...demos?

Possibly....an archive? A Speed demo archive, possibly?


Oh, man, I'm on a roll. Anyways, it's not illegal, get your head out of your ass, etc..
Fucking Weeaboo
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God, this is like a clusterfuck of morons. Andrew, shut the hell up. OMG REDISTRUHBUSTION LOL!

You dumbshit, it gets sent to him. That alone gives him permission.

Christ, you people.


King of hearts
Has anyone on this site ever been banned?  Well, if he's a /b/tard (looks like it), then eventually, yeah...
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Andrew_Mills: 2006-01-22 05:26:04 pm
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
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Meanwhile you're hosting copies of commercials and CDs which I'm SURE you didn't ask permission for either.

ZOMG LAWSUIT WAR!



No of course I didn't. I fully acknowledge that ALL of my content on Samus.co.uk is hosted illegally and that Nintendo could (if they wanted to), ask me to remove all traces of their game from my site. Just like any company could do to any fan site. But they don't because I don't make any profit from my site.

Oh, and Justice_Provider, this proves that YOU'RE the Dumbs**t here...

http://www.samus.co.uk/temp/EA_legal_notice.jpg
Scanned from the XBox 360 Ridge Racer 6 UK Instruction Manual. I've also got other manuals here with similar legal notices should you wish me to scan them and prove that both you and Radix are - quite clearly - wrong.
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Patricio: 2006-01-22 05:31:09 pm
MarioKart64.com biotch!
Ya, EA is going to shut down the site because we are making videos of people going fast though their games. I am sure they would want to do that and lose all of their valuable customers. 

Oh and it said you can not turn that manuel into any electronic form and you created an electornic picture of it. PWNED!
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Andrew_Mills: 2006-01-22 05:36:19 pm
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
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Ya, EA is going to shut down the site because we are making videos of people going fast though their games. I am sure they would want to do that and lose all of their valuable customers. 

Oh and it said you can not turn that manuel into any electronic form and you created an electornic picture of it. PWNED!

Did I say that they were? Please read the topic title again, and THEN comment please. Thanks.

Yes I know I did. I broke the law by doing so. But it doesn't stop the fact that I have proved that these speedruns ARE copyrighted (by the publishers/developers, NOT the speedrunners). Which was what was asked in the topic title.
MarioKart64.com biotch!
Nintendo could (if they wanted to), ask me to remove all traces of their game from my site. Just like any company could do to any fan site. But they don't because I don't make any profit from my site. 

Wouldn't that basicly be shutting down SDA if that happened to us? I guess not.
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Radix: 2006-01-22 05:50:24 pm
I'm addicted to games
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I have proved that these speedruns ARE copyrighted (by the publishers/developers, NOT the speedrunners).


LOL yeah.
Like I said, I guess I have to prove it to you again.
Go to copyright.gov and tell me where it mentions the copyright status of the output of a computer program.

IT DOESN'T

Else my resume would be (c) microsoft. Everyone's Brick's solutions would be (c) nolan pflug. This forum post would be (c) to the YaBB forum team.

Therefore the output of a video game is not copyright to the company.

A speed run is not a derivative work of the game, it is the output of a game.

By distributing a speed run we are not distributing the game in any way.
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Andrew_Mills: 2006-01-22 05:54:34 pm
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
http://www.samus.co.uk/temp/EA_legal_notice.jpg

^^^
Because the legally-qualified EA Legal Team obviously know less than you about the legal aspects of videogame copyright and as such, stick such things there for the sheer fun of it.
I'm addicted to games
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the software described in this manual, is under copyright ... No part of ... the described software may be copied, reproduced ... to any electronic medium.


Can you even read?

The SOFTWARE.
We are NOT sending the software.

This conversation is over.