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My feelings on The Demon Rush
http://speeddemosarchive.com/SuperC.html

Freddy 'Frezy_Man' Andersson's run

Verifier Responses:

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Verification Frezyman Super-C run:

Hello Mike this is my verification.

-Im not pick up cheats or audio troubles. As well quality was great.
-I timed this was 13.25. Which is quite much better than Jim Hanson previous run

This is great see how much there is different ways beat game for speed.

Level 1: Great non stop run here. Boss fight was very ok, but i am quite sure you can make it slightly faster too. But this is very minor. Maybe half seconds to seconds.

Level 2: Not perfect run. But still very great run.

Level 3: Nice run, but maybe too much back shots. Nice boss fights

Level 4: Awesome run. Awesome boss fight.

Level 5: Nice jumps. But why he stop take smart bomb? Need you it? Boss was good.

Level 6: Almost perfect run & boss fight. Alot close calls in mouth field looks cool.

Level 7: Ok this level looks like TAS. Yeah seriously im not never see better perform beat this level. This level tell lot how fast his firing speed is. Seriously im not see that before this level.  This level looks totally awesome & it is easily best part his run IMO.

Boss fight was awesome (before 4th balls) It like lot perfect.

Level 8: Quite perfect run. One single mistake, but it not are too bad.

Yeah there is no real mistakes. Most levels are done quite perfectly, especially level 7. As well runner beat current US run by multiple seconds.

I say ACCEPT.:)


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You can never have enough Contra goodness.  So we have a super sized serving here.

I put together a pool on how many verifiers would claim some kind of Frezy_Man status, who wants in?

Level 1 - Perfect and a half

Level 2 - Those tanks didn't stand a chance, excellent again.

Level 3 - Accept right here due to the hyper lawn mowing at the beginning and the cannon destruction was vicious.  The runner even avoids forest lag.  And holy hell on the boss take down.

Level 4 - A couple turn backs after the first bubble shooter, but I realized he was shooting the red soldier to avoid him shooting a bullet.  The level is fairly similar with a little tighter execution.  The boss didn't have a prayer.  Damn beautiful actually.

Level 5 - Much faster run up the hills.

Level 6 - Non-stop running, insane boss button mashing.

Level 7 - Nailed the green egg part.  I'm so happy.

Level 8 - The first boo-boo of the run.  One missed jump, but it costs less than a second, so no biggie.  And the falling ceiling proves to be nothing as the runner doesn't even flinch.

This run is faster than the old one in every way, including by individual level.  One of the main factors is the speed of annihilation to every boss in the game.  This is the kind of thing that makes people scream turbo button.  But I caution any verifier against making such an accusation against this runner as Mike will reach through the internet and bitch-slap you.

I recommend everyone feast themselves on this orgasm for the eyes.


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Verifier: and super c is pretty good
Verifier: and by that i mean i'm glad i decided not to keep running it as he would have obviuously obliterated it even if i had better strats
Verifier: so yea its good
Verifier: and he is super stylish for added bonus
Verifier: so uh yea i don't think much time can be cut
Verifier: boss of stage 4 was slightly slow but i mean whatever
Verifier: he mashes so fast that i mean whatever its so gay lol
Verifier: stage 5 boss is kind of lol
Verifier: getting perfect mouth luck MBN
Verifier: OMFG
Verifier: OMFG
Verifier: OMFG
Verifier: boss 6 is epic
Verifier: wtf
Verifier: that is just gay how fast he can do that
Verifier: wtf FU
Verifier: omg rape in stage 7
Verifier: no one can compete with this this is bullshit and i'm quitting life and speeedrunning forever no one can compete with this
Verifier: think i might go get wasted to bring meaning to my life after watching this , it is better than porn
Verifier: omg a mistake in stage 8 thats a miracle
Verifier: good thing missing a jump costs him like a second
Verifier: needs to obsolete both runs (Mike's Note: I am seriously considering this)
Verifier: for sure
Verifier: no choice
Verifier: no one in the world even has the ability to beat this
Verifier: which is sick
Verifier: yea
Verifier: def not
Verifier: wtf
Verifier: going to drink myself to sleep after watching that epicness


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Stage one is possibly the hardest stage to speedrun, and the runner did an incredible job.  He didn't stop at all.

In stage five, I like how he jumped and shot upward to destroy that boulder instead of waiting for it to drop in front of him.  Ballsy!

I like the edge-jumping he used in stage seven.

I love the pre-boss-fight dance in the last stage.  I laughed...out loud.

Accept!


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Hi there Mike,

below are my comments and you are right: This run doesn't really need comments. Of course, I couldn't keep myself from commenting on it and my comments may be worse than ever Grin

[bullshit] So frezy_man runs another contra game and hereby improves an existing run. Mike just asked people to watch this to put them on their place, not really for verification, I guess.
If it wasn't for a single mistake people may notice without having played the game, I'd say this thing just rings some girl's doorbell and has its dick in her mouth before she even heard the sound, leave alone opened her door.
But because of this mistake, it just brakes her door open and jumps on her, dick first.
[/bullshit}
I guess sooner or later, frezy_man will submit an improved version without the noticeable mistake.

Seriously, this run made me realize that I am not frezy_man and beats the old one by an nearly unbelievable 2818 ingame frames, or about 47 seconds on NTSC. Of course, there's still room left for improvement and i won't spare on the nasty when pointing out everything that could be done faster and was noticed by me. Of course, there might be some additional frames hidden in a jump here and there.



Area 1:
At about 0:29, there could have been an additional slope jump.
Maybe for the core of the helicopter using some uncharged shots more and do less charging could be faster

Area 2:
You could have walked less diagonally on the first wall, also there's repositioning on the second one.
The second turret made you stop a bit.

Area 3:
Wonderful lag prevention at 3:24. That's the way to turn round and shoot enemies behind. I guess this actualy gained you time. Though, the turn arounds at about 3:34 and 3:39 seem to be a bit faster.

Area 4:
The turn at 5:02 was a bit too early, you could have spared the second one immediately after that.
The two ceilings could have probably been faster. You trigger them by shooting, as you surely know, and this could be done earlier.

Area 5:
Shooting the stone while jumping, impressive. You're bruteforcing this one.

Area 6:
Ha! I saw that repositioning after the first diagonal movement!

Area 7:
Yeah baby, no real stopping at the droolpots.
But you hestitated a bit with the jump after positioning yourself to go down through the slime. Also one of the jumps on your way down could have been some frames faster, I saw you standing for a split second.

Area 8:
There could have been a slopejump on that mid size platform before the small one a about 11:58. Also after the second hole just after that.
12:05, here it is! He misses the jump. The only possible improvement to be spotted by someone who hasn't played the game for sure.
12:10, another possible slopejump missed. And then again after that!


Audio and video seem fine and if I'm not off, frezy_man has alroeady proven to have THE doomfinger. Besides that, I can sense no cheating.

Decision: Obvious accept.

Reason: Baby, this is rocking the game far better than anything before ever did!


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No cheating, deaths, or technical problems. Since it's a Frezy run I think I can believe there's no turbo here, but goddamn.

Not really much to say other than the run is incredibly cleanly executed, and is about 40 seconds faster than vgmr's run. There's some nutty timing, especially in level 5, and some interesting strategies throughout that I hadn't considered. Visible mistakes are few and movement is incredibly smooth. Much as I like the Probotector 2 run I'm thinking this should replace it because accounting for the time difference there's no way I'd accept that after watching this, sad to say.

I keep hearing 'F' weapon brought up as a superior choice, so why haven't we seen it yet? Just wondering.

Accept.


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I still think keeping F would save time, even if you switch to spread at stage 4. Hard to say what's best since this run is so fast Lips Sealed

Stage 1: Perfect

Stage 2: I'm pretty shocked he accepted waiting for that turret to shoot bullets, considering how fast the rest of the run is.

Stage 3: Really good, but F is faster against the miniboss don't have to crouch. Frezy says in his audio commentary you can also kill the boss faster with spread. Shocked

Stage 4: This stage is so boring. Also, how do you prevent yourself from firing diagonally while jumping to the side while you're fighting the boss?

Stage 5: I think Frezy's boss fight is actually slower than vgmr's because he starts shooting too early. I'm too lazy to check.

Stage 6: Nothing to say here.

Stage 7: I think it might be faster to collect an F near the end of the stage so you can kill the boss in two rounds. But as Master-88 would say, "This stage is seriously TAS".

Stage 8: I think Frezy screwed up that jump just to taunt with us. I have no idea why he didn't collect the F near the end because that's a free second or two he can knock off.

Yeah, the above comments are nitpicks, but that's all I have left to criticize on such a great run. Cry


Accept: Accept! Why wouldn't we?

Frezy_Man: I am Frezy_Man, and this is my Super C speedrun Wink
Thread title:  
wise fwom yo gwave
YAY I BET NO ONE CAN TELL WHICH COMMENTS ARE FROM ME GOOD JOB DISGUISING THE SUPER TOP SECRET VERIFIER JOB MIKEY BOY.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T CRY AFTER WATCHING THIS THEN YOU ARE NOT MEN!
Visually Appealing
obviously, you're the one that said "this looks like TAS."
You got a deletion wish?
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obviously, you're the one that said "this looks like TAS."


If you're referring to verifier 1, that's probably Master 88.

As for Stanski, WOULD THE REAL JOE STANSKI PLEASE STAND UP?!  Myself, I'm gonna say V2 or V5 (I am Frezy poll, or the sex joke given Frezy's famous quote currently sigged by vgmr).
Master-88
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If you're referring to verifier 1, that's probably Master 88.


Heh heh Cheesy

Yeah i was. Wink
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Thanks for those kind (sometimes dirty) words guys! I am glad over the reactions and I get motivation to keep doing speedruns.

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Level 1: Great non stop run here. Boss fight was very ok, but i am quite sure you can make it slightly faster too. But this is very minor. Maybe half seconds to seconds.

The strategiy I am using for the first level where easy when I finally figured it out. The key to a perfect first level would be charging the "F" gun to shot that "turret" after the small pitfall.
And you are right about the boss. It was pretty much perfect except that I did not jump during the last fire.

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Level 5: Nice jumps. But why he stop take smart bomb? Need you it? Boss was good.

It was probably not necessary. My plan was to stop and shot that bomb a bit smoother. and I am not sure if that was necessary. It was troublesome to take out the flying enemies without the bomb though, if it was even possible. It did at least save me some trouble. Because when the flying enemies start shooting the bullets will follow you for a while.

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Area 8:
There could have been a slopejump on that mid size platform before the small one a about 11:58. Also after the second hole just after that.
12:05, here it is! He misses the jump. The only possible improvement to be spotted by someone who hasn't played the game for sure.
12:10, another possible slopejump missed. And then again after that!


Is slopjump the same as edgejump? Anyways I do not know what you mean because edge jumps at this level do not gain you any time horizontally.

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Stage 2: I'm pretty shocked he accepted waiting for that turret to shoot bullets, considering how fast the rest of the run is.


I hate those turrets because you are never at exactly the same grades because of the scrolling. dodge a random enemy sometimes make the situation opposite. Sometimes you can pass the turret without stop, sometimes you can not. That turret have killed me plenty of times so I guess it was worth the wait and as I could tell he would have killed me if I tried to pass him. At least it is very tight and I can not tell If I will survive or be killed. but some time can be gained if you pass him without stop. I think this level is improvable with 3-5 seconds. This level is really hard.

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Stage 3: Really good, but F is faster against the miniboss don't have to crouch. Frezy says in his audio commentary you can also kill the boss faster with spread.


Thats true. I where considering trying to beat him that fast but my rate of successful attempts where less then 50 %. It would have been very cool I would have nailed it. It is a "Kill or get killed" moment and I had to max out my doomed finger to his max potential. I didn´t want the amounts of attempts to give me gray hair Smiley

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This stage is so boring. Also, how do you prevent yourself from firing diagonally while jumping to the side while you're fighting the boss?


just hold upwards at the directional buttons while firing ( during a horizontal jump ) Wink

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I think Frezy's boss fight is actually slower than vgmr's because he starts shooting too early. I'm too lazy to check.


That is true. I never payed enough attention when his hit box actually started. So I almost killed myself here too.

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I have no idea why he didn't collect the F near the end because that's a free second or two he can knock off.


I probably forgot about trying that out after you told me that you can actually charge the "F" gun.
and about "F" gun. You might be right about using the "F" gun for other parts of the game too. I will definitely try it out harder if I try to improve this run in the future. Or if someone will beat it.
everybody wanna tell you the meaning of music
Quote from stanski:
YAY I BET NO ONE CAN TELL WHICH COMMENTS ARE FROM ME GOOD JOB DISGUISING THE SUPER TOP SECRET VERIFIER JOB MIKEY BOY.

IF YOU GUYS DON'T CRY AFTER WATCHING THIS THEN YOU ARE NOT MEN!

ship it

Quote from MatrixTN:
As for Stanski, WOULD THE REAL JOE STANSKI PLEASE STAND UP?!  Myself, I'm gonna say V2 or V5 (I am Frezy poll, or the sex joke given Frezy's famous quote currently sigged by vgmr).

If you can't immediately tell that he's the 3rd one (the AIM log), you don't know the first, second, or five-hundredth thing about stanski. Tongue
You got a deletion wish?
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If you can't immediately tell that he's the 3rd one (the AIM log), you don't know the first, second, or five-hundredth thing about stanski. Tongue


I hardly see Stanski on AIM anymore, then again I'm not on as frequently.
contraddicted
Quote from Frezy_man:
Thanks for those kind (sometimes dirty) words guys! I am glad over the reactions and I get motivation to keep doing speedruns.

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Area 8:
There could have been a slopejump on that mid size platform before the small one a about 11:58. Also after the second hole just after that.
12:05, here it is! He misses the jump. The only possible improvement to be spotted by someone who hasn't played the game for sure.
12:10, another possible slopejump missed. And then again after that!


Is slopjump the same as edgejump? Anyways I do not know what you mean because edge jumps at this level do not gain you any time horizontally.


No no, WE have to thank YOU for producing such splendid material for us to watch Smiley

Eh, I'm not sure what edgejump is, but I mean constantly jumping while walking diagonally up. Is there something different in Area 8 that makes it useless here?
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If I shall tell you the truth. I was not sure that consistently jumping while walking diagonally upwards is faster then just run.
Are you sure about this? It feels a bit faster sometimes though Tongue

Also want to thank you for the fast verification process.
I believe that jumping up slopes is faster than just walking up them. I'm pretty sure it is because I think it was impossible to avoid the grenade things the enemies throw at you in the first level without jumping up the hill first.
My feelings on The Demon Rush
I think Andrewg is right, because I remember being unable to bypass some of the grenades unless if I jumped up the hill first.
you may be right. sounds logic to me now Tongue
contraddicted
Quote from Frezy_man:
If I shall tell you the truth. I was not sure that consistently jumping while walking diagonally upwards is faster then just run.
Are you sure about this? It feels a bit faster sometimes though Tongue


WHAT???
You are pretty consistently applying this. And you do not even have an idea of what you are doing?
This must be some speedrunning instinct or a divine blessing...


And such good and short runs as the one you sent usually have short verification processes, at least from what I have seen. The hardest part was actually thinking of something to say about this run besides "awesome", "accept" and "WTF!?!".
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I guess my doomed finger can not ignore the jump button while the character runs diagonally upwards  8)
sinister1
so pro u don't even know
As usual...Frezy does not disappoint. Well done sir!
Hi! I'm andrewg!
Really nice speedrun Frezy!  Smiley

I was addicted to this game back around 2000 and I think I have completed this game 100+ times. You better watch out Frezy.  8)
Master-88
This is fun why present day kids not have any skills play Contra? My first cousin try a lot. I promise 2 € if he can beat first level with any time and caring how long it take. But after 7-8 game over screen he giving up. He is 13 year old and quite good player with PC & playstation games.

But sorry frezyman i not promise two € for you if you can beat first level. Grin
bläää
I promised my Girlfriend to take her on a very fancy restaurant if she could beat Contra without the legendary cheat Smiley But she have not been able to complete it with the cheat yet so it is still a long way to go  Grin

It takes a special skill to play old 2d action-platformers for sure. Like many other genres I have problems playing.
I don't even know what the fuck this is
I don't have any trouble playing any game. I'm the best at them all.