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don't you mean deinterlacing (the opposite of interlacing)?
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Got one to add that I should have posted here a long time ago:

Hauppauge HD PVR 1212 (Links to the American Newegg site.)

Manufacturer = Hauppauge
Model = HD PVR 1212 (I would think.)
Connection to computer = USB 2.0*
NTSC = YES
PAL = No (90% sure anyway)
PAL-60 = No (90% sure, again)
HiDef = YES
Resolutions Supported: 480i, 480p, 720p, 1080i**
Quality = Very good***
Lag (ms) = 0! Zip! Zilch! Nada!****
Inputs = Component, S-Video*****, RCA*****

Notes = Before all of the asterisks, I must first say that this device x264 hardware encodes in real time, so not much strain on the computer other than writing the files to the hard drive. The videos are stored in either .ts or .m2ts containers, and dealing with those is a slight pain since they aren't widely supported (they can be opened with Avidemux, if you're wondering), but once the captured videos are out of their containers, they're fair game for editing with pretty much any program. Standard definition is captured in 720 x 480 (as it should be), so those captures need to be resized to 640 x 480 or 848 x 480, depending on the aspect ratio.

*This device also comes with an AC adapter, so don't think that it's USB powered, like some smaller USB devices.

**Automatically detects and encodes at whatever resolution it's receiving from the component cables.

***I would say EXCELLENT here, except that the encodes have just a touch of too much gamma. The software the came with the device, that a person uses to interface with the device, is supposed to let a person adjust color, brightness and everything, except that it doesn't work for me. So... I just adjust the gamma using a VirtualDub plug-in or Avidemux. Afterwards, everything looks superb.

****This has a video loop-through setup, so no splitter required! A person just plugs in the component cables coming from whatever they're capturing, then another set of cables from the output of the device to the television. And on top of it, no lag!

*****Unfortunately, I couldn't actually get these inputs to work properly on my device. Well, they would work, but it would try to record 480i at 480p. So instead of 30 interlaced frames, there would be 60 interlaced frames, every set of frames the same. And no matter what I did to the resultant captured video, I couldn't get the timing/framerate right. Don't know if it was hardware or software related, but I think mine might be just a fluke because I didn't see this mentioned anywhere else. Fortunately for me though, I have a DVD recorder that I can use to upscale 480i to 480p and then send the signal along component cables, so I just use that to capture pre-Wii/PS3/Xbox360 consoles.

Didn't mean for the last one to be a total buzzkill, but overall, I'd have to say this capture device totally ROCKS!


I'd be more than willing to post video samples and/or screenshots if anybody is interested.
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Aftermath: 2010-07-28 02:45:29 pm
Quits halfway
Name/Model: AverMedia Aver TV HD DVR (Model: MTVHDDVRR)
Connection: PCI-e 1x
NTSC: Yes
PAL: No idea, but there's a Euro version of this card (link)
PAL-60: See above
SECAM: No.
HiDef: Yeah
Quality: Amazing
Video Input: HDMI, Component, Composite, S-Video
Audio Input: Doesn't seem to work with 3rd party programs, but has HDMI, Red/White (x2), and a 3.5mm Stereo jack.
Resolutions: 1080i (30fps), 720p (locked at 60fps), 480p (60fps), 480i (30fps)

Notes: Probably the best investment you can make as far as a capture card goes. Supports basically everything, is super easy to use, and captures flawlessly. Works great in Vdub and with FME. In 720p over component, the preview has a slight flicker, but it doesn't show up in the capture and unless you have no TV like me, you shouldn't be playing games on your capture card.

The SD capture is the best I've seen from any card, no ghosting, aliasing, or checkerboarding.

As far as whether your computer can handle HD encodes, it can as long as you have a PCI-e 1x slot. I was capturing on a P4 comp with 1GB RAM and a very, very slow HDD and eventually got it to not drop any frames, even at 1080i.
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
Just a quick update regarding the Blackmagic Intensity Pro (well, two really).

1). The cards firmware was updated to support 1080p24 (1080p @ 24fps), up from 1080i before.

2). There's a new model coming out that uses USB 3.0 to record every resolution I can think of (including 480p which isn't properly supported by the regular or Pro intensity PCIE card).

Just thought I'd throw that in there for anyone thinking of HD capture. Smiley
DS Dictator
Simple question Andrew_Mills:

Did you have to use a HDTV (to record 720p)? I heard from bmn that it's possible not to use a HDTV for one, unless I've misread it.

If it does require using HDTV, how much input lag (from HDTV & Capture card) did you have to deal with.
AlphaStrategyGui des.com
Quote from Greenalink:
Simple question Andrew_Mills:

Did you have to use a HDTV (to record 720p)? I heard from bmn that it's possible not to use a HDTV for one, unless I've misread it.

If it does require using HDTV, how much input lag (from HDTV & Capture card) did you have to deal with.

I never use an HDTV with it, I always play it straight on the PC monitor. Not sure how much lag there is as I'm very use to it now, so I don't personally perceive there to be any lag when playing! Wink
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bmn: 2010-07-29 09:34:05 am
Okeys, the passthrough (output from the card) is lagless, so any lag will be introduced by the TV.

In the BMIP control panel there's an option to change the video mode for input and/or output. If you change the output to "HD to SD Letterbox/Anamorphic" it will capture 720p but passthrough 480i, which is compatible with SDTVs.

Depending on the SDTV's supported inputs you'll also have to set the output connection type. They both give you HDMI out. "Y,R-Y,B-Y" is Component and so needs a 5-connector Component cable set. "NTSC/PAL (Y Out) & S-Video" supports both Composite and S-Video. With Composite you connect to the... green connector I think. With S-Video you need an "S-Video to 2x RCA" adaptor, I forget which connectors you plug it into.
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Kayot: 2010-07-31 05:48:49 am
Pinnacle PCTV HD 800i
Model
Brand:PCTV Systems
Model:23040


General
TypeTV Tuner Card
TV TunerHybrid Tuner
TV StandardsATSC / ClearQAM / NTSC
FM TunerYes
Remote ControlRemote Included
InterfacePCI
Low Profile ReadyYes


        
Features
FeaturesIncludes remote control and FM radio antenna
Stereo sound for both digital and analog TV
Stereo FM radio reception


Automatically record shows to your hard drive in the destination file format of choice3 (i.e. MPEG-2, DivX, etc.), or even direct-to-DVD
Capture from your cable/satellite set-top box or camcorder with the included A/V adapter cable
Electronic Programming Guide
Turns your PC into a Personal video recorder (PVR) with TimeShifting: pause, rewind TV


Specifications
Video FormatMPEG-1/2 - DivX
Ports InTV antenna input (F-connector/Coaxial)
FM antenna input
S-Video, Composite Video (RCA), Stereo Audio (2 x RCA)


System Requirements
ProcessorIntel Pentium 4 2.4 GHz, Pentium M 1.3 GHz or AMD Athlon 64 processor (for HDTV reception, a Pentium 4 2.8GHz or Pentium M 1.7 GHz or equivalent AMD Athlon 64 processor is recommended)


Graphics CardGraphics controller with support for DirectX 9
MemoryWindows XP – 256MB (512MB recommended); for Windows Vista – 512 MB (1GB recommended)
Available SlotFree PCI rev. 2.3 slot
Operating Systems SupportedWindows Vista (32-bit) or Windows XP with latest service pack


MISC:
Sound card
Hard drive with minimum 1 GB free space (20 GB recommended for TV recording)
DVD player or burner
Internet connection for registration/activation
High-gain indoor or rooftop aerial and/or connection to an existing cable TV jack (coaxial cable)

Comments:
So far this isn't really a great card. Installing it's drivers flat out kills Dscaler. It comes with a propitiatory cable that is what the RCA and S-Video hookup too. Dscaler can't seem to extract audio from the card so I had to bypass it by plugging the sound directly into my sound cards input. I would've opted for a PCIx1 card, but I'm already using it for a SATA card. It's was a choice between this card or upgrading to a full size mother board plus DDR3 ram since my current system uses DDR2. The irony is that the larger board has enough SATA ports so that I wouldn't need to use the PCIe card. Irony sucks. Anyway, once you get past the connector it's not overly bad. For some reason Dscaler won't access it's CATV port, I'm guessing the tuner is software based since I'm gods cosmic plaything for the week. So if I want to use it for CATV I can't use it for game capture as the included software that does work with the drivers won't let me switch to the composite or S-video. Yea for incompatibilities that make no sense what so ever.

All that aside, it seems to be excellent quality once you boost the color and set the format to NTSC-J since the PS2 is apparently a goth system favoring dark depressing colors. Not all games look like Disney threw up on them. Kingdom Hearts is happy and perky, yet still dark... Fatal Frame was nearly black until I boosted the hell out of it's color system.

All in all, I'm keeping the card. It's ok once you get all the stuff you need to get it to work right.

Shopping List:
A TV with Audio out and S-cable in. Other wise you'll have to split the audio too.
1 Red and White to Aux connector
5'-25' Aux cable or RCA (I just used a red and white that I had in a box)
2 Audio Cable Couplers
1 High Def cable for Ps2 (Gamestop saves)
5'-25' of S-Cable
1 Female to 2 Male S-Video connector (So you can play AND record S-Video)
1 Female to Female coupler

Using Amazon the above cost me 30$ total minus the TV.

The TV Card was 79$
Question from noob:
Are all DVD Recorders can record 60 fps?
This isn't mostly mentioned anywere.
for the purpose of analog video, yes.

analog video = everything you see here: http://speeddemosarchive.com/kb/Console_Recording
But is that also trtue for a card? Don't think so.
Though, it is also rarely mentioned in their describtions.
it's almost always true for cards. ntsc = 29.97 fps interlaced = 59.94 fps deinterlaced.
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CMiller: 2011-06-01 11:03:53 pm
CMiller: 2011-06-01 11:01:56 pm
The MXO2 mini is a pretty good alternative choice for people who want HD. It even supports 7.1 surround. Works on laptops as well as desktops. Pricier than the Intensity Pro (It's about $400), and I find it more finicky, but if you need portable capture or more than 2 channels of audio it's worth checking out. I've only gotten one to work under OS X. When I tried installing the PC drivers I got a blue screen.

Quality is basically the same as the intensity.

http://www.matrox.com/video/en/products/mac/mxo2_family/mxo2_mini/
Willing to teach you the impossible
Ok... I looked around a bit but I would rather ask before spending $200+. I want to upgrade my capture card from my good ol EZ Cap (I know how much every one loves them and they always work perfectly) to something that I can record my composite input as well as HDMI (now that I have a sex-box, I need to look into this. I am sure I will need it sooner or later *looks at Outland*).

I have seen a few things I might be interested in, but I fear my PC is... out of date. Attached are a few pics (after taking the pics, I see just how dirty my PC is, and yes, it has been cleaned) of the slots I have. one pic is a close up on the PCIx1 (I think) and the other is just showing the slots I can use. My PC has USB 2.0, so I fear that the USB 3.0 external cards wont work, but I really have no idea is they can or not. The top card is a PCIx16 video card, then the empty slot, my sound card, then my wireless network card.

Anyone have the best solution? I figured this would go good in the thread as it may answer questions others might have as well.



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I would tell you to get either a Blackmagic Intensity Pro or a Aver TV HD DVR, but the proximity of the port to the GPU is so close I would suspect damage would be done to both cards due to overheating issues.
Stand: Devil's Call in your Heart
aren't the cards made to work well under those conditions?
my old computer had the cards close to teh processor and i never had a problem (although the processor was never too good so it didn't get really hot. i guess the kind of processor would make a difference)
Fucking Weeaboo
I'm trying to remember my capture card used PCI-e x1 or x16.  If it's the latter, it's not gonna work with that current computer configuration.  It's $100 and records pretty much every video cable type in NTSC land.
Willing to teach you the impossible
What I am worried about is the card blocking off my video cards fan, like ExtremeYoshiFan mentioned. Any thoughts on an external card?

Also considered removing my video card and just using the motherboard port, giving me the room needed, Id I ever wanted to do something on PC, I would have to swap out (I am thinking this is my best bet).
Fucking Weeaboo
Before we worry about that, what are the rest of your PC's specs?  Processor?  RAM?  Hard drives?

Must be semi-recent given it has PCI-e and no AGP, but better ask and get a better idea.
Willing to teach you the impossible
2.66GHz Duo Core
3GB RAM (DDR2)
80GB primary and 750GB secondary for recording to. All programs run from the primary.
Fucking Weeaboo
Ok, decent enough.  Just wanted to get that question out of the way.
Willing to teach you the impossible
Ok, so AverMedia Aver TV HD DVR (Model: MTVHDDVRR) is looking the the one I will be getting. Question about it though, is there any lag while recording (playing on the tv that is)?
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Sir VG: 2011-10-10 06:52:02 am
Fucking Weeaboo
It looks similar to what I have, and there's no outputs on it, so there computer will be handling the recording and displaying at the same time.  I don't recall lag, but that's probably because I run my video though a powered splitter and avoid the issue entirely.

However I never did get my older computer to handle it perfectly smooth, so you're probably better off splitting it rather then viewing it through your computer monitor.
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Ok, so AverMedia Aver TV HD DVR (Model: MTVHDDVRR) is looking the the one I will be getting. Question about it though, is there any lag while recording (playing on the tv that is)?

Yeah, you're going to definitely going to want a splitter, there will be lag no matter what you do. It happens. A cheap component splitter(which will also work for composite, just plug the yellow into one plug and hook it up to the others of the same color) is around $50 or more This one would suffice

I don't know why they are so expensive, it is a pretty simple piece of technology.
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Heidrage: 2011-10-10 09:41:14 am
Heidrage: 2011-10-10 09:06:43 am
Willing to teach you the impossible
Would this not work? I don't see why not...
No splitters are needed for the blackmagic card right? I think Cody uses this (based on other forum posts) and the card splits it and has an output.