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So guys, in any% do you think that Tutorial, Yeti, Stratus, Onyxia, Gol'Qayin, Rol'Qayin, Mol'Qayin and Avarice is the best route? Or there is a better one?
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Onin: 2015-04-16 11:26:32 am
Onin: 2015-04-16 11:26:09 am
It's hard to say. You'd have to time how long moving between areas takes. Gut feeling tells me that tutorial>forest bosses>knight+mimic>volcano bosses, either with mask or with the slime, would be the fastest. But you could also go forest>knight+mimic>mask+truth, save warp back to start, kill stratus, save warp back again. Every boss except for the lava slime has a consistent(ish) quick-kill that you shouldn't die on, so it becomes a matter of movement efficiency rather than kill speed.
Did some runs yesterday, got some decent ones



For that any% run, going for the mask instead of the plant looks like a pretty major waste of time. Especially when it stops you from save warping back to the start.
Yeah i just did some runs for timing and testing multiple routes, it wasted around 15s, fastest seems to be forest+checkpoint, ruins, fire, warp back to forest and complete. forest to original point takes about 22s, from ruins it's around 25 and from ice it's over 30-35, i didn't time from fire, doesn't seem to be needed since the climb is quite long.
I noticed you can avoid getting stunned when shooting the knight's arrow by dodging before the arrows collide.
Same as well for when collecting souls, you can roll twice after you start the walk sequence as long as you continue holding fire.
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Angrevol: 2015-04-17 12:11:23 am
Angrevol: 2015-04-16 05:52:45 pm
got a better run, didn't record it, will do more recorded attempts later



lost 18s to The Soul because of that one death

EDIT: if anyone needs a livesplit autosplit script for Titan Souls, I made this http://puu.sh/hgxdT/542f3f03a0.txt it starts on first timer frame and splits on every kill
Radicool
I haven't seen a video for dropping a bomb on top of the flame slime head , surely that would be faster than waiting for it throw out its flame attack?
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Angrevol: 2015-04-16 10:09:51 pm
I did the achievement, you basically need a wall for that to work and so it's actually way slower. What you need to do is get the boss next to a wall, make him throw a bomb towards it and then it bounces back on the titan.
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Oldbie: 2015-04-16 11:25:51 pm
In game time stops when you reach the final boss, before you even fight him, on PS4. On PC it doesn't stop until you kill the final boss......
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Oldbie: 2015-04-16 11:25:43 pm
Also, are we going to consider "World Record" as in game time or real time....?    Here is my 13:47 in game time run on PC.....it would be considered 13:08 on PS4 -_-    http://www.twitch.tv/oldbie/v/4079155
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Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:30:32 pm
Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:30:14 pm
Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:29:54 pm
Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:29:18 pm
You could get a low 11 for game time but it is way slower than getting the best possible real time. Also game time comes back in time and remove cutscenes if you reset the game after them. therefore i think game time is not gonna cut it except maybe for no reset runs.

for soul cutscenes you get back around 20s and some more for The Soul's cutscene. didn't time The Soul's cutscene but if we think about resetting 7 bosses, game time is off by 2:20. resetting all possible bosses would make game time off by 4mn + The Soul.
Well who decides exactly what the standard is....? I'm down to use either method but if it's going to be Real Time then that changes my strats up....if in game time was used we would have to seperate the ps4 and pc groups....
Radicool
SDA usually works with real time, otherwise the game community decides. In my opinion IGT is completely borked for the above reasons, Real Time should be the way to go
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Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:35:49 pm
Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:33:52 pm
Angrevol: 2015-04-16 11:33:40 pm
It's not a matter of someone deciding a standard i believe. It's just that the in-game time actually rewinds.
At least, if In-game time is gonna be used I believe it'd be a different category. (not that i'm encouraging this, i'm not too fond of lots and lots of categories)

Quote from Toloo:
SDA usually works with real time, otherwise the game community decides. In my opinion IGT is completely borked for the above reasons, Real Time should be the way to go

I completely agree
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Oldbie: 2015-04-16 11:40:41 pm
That makes it so that ps4 and pc are on even footing so i'm happy about that. Thanks for letting me know guys Cheesy gonna go do some real time runs and stop doing in game time runs now lol Cheesy
I believe we should use RTA.  Here is my reasoning.  In game time is usually used for games that have load times (this allows for even competition on PC).  This game does not require that much power to run.

Also, in game time tends to be really wierd (imo).

Now im off  to make keyboard strats!!!!
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Oldbie: 2015-04-16 11:48:02 pm
in RTA i'm pretty sure the route is

1. Go to the Forest and get both kills + the checkpoint
2. Go to the Ruins and get both kills but skip checkpoint
3 Go to Fireworld and kill all 3 but skip checkpoint
4. Quit to menu and reload to spawn back in forest
5. Run to the end and finish
If i timed it correctly you save 5s by getting ruins checkpoint and resetting for both chest and fire area. forest to door is aroud 3s faster than ruins, but you save around 8s for the chest reset. but otherwise i agree on the bosses.
yeah i was actually testing the time on that right now lol. thanks man Cheesy
no probs
For the fire blob fight:  I killed her by:
running to the left wall
starting the battle
shooting her
dragging her
(she almost hit herself with her stone against the left wall)  if the stone doesnt hit she should be right next to it. 
Fight maybe took 15-20 seconds

It was really easy, but yall probably already have a faster method.  This works well with keyboard tho.
Did a few Any% runs and managed to get 10:36 IGT with Knight, Mimic, all fire area, Yeti, and Teeth guy. Not sure if it is or isn't the best route. Died once on Yeti, I can see a good run with this route finishing just under 10 minutes with a cleaner run.

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Angrevol: 2015-04-17 12:52:17 am
That is a really nice route man, gratz on the run!

I still think the forest route is better now that i timed both our time losses (I also didn't know you could save warp the soul's cutscene directly haha)
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That is a really nice route man, gratz on the run!

I still think the forest route is better now that i timed both our time losses (I also didn't know you could save warp the soul's cutscene directly haha)


It might be, I'd be interested to see some detailed comparisons if anyone less lazy than myself wants to try to work it out. I'll probably try some runs with the forest route tomorrow if we don't really have an answer yet on which is better. I'd prefer if that one is faster honestly because I kind of hate the Yeti.