Sonic Adventure 1 [DC/GCN] • • • Sonic's Story (SS) practice/polish in progress!

trihex

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trihex: 2012-02-14 01:10:19 am

2005-08-15 04:55:43 am

Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!

To get the ball rolling for some Sonic runs on SDA I plan to do Story mode or Adventure mode (whatever the hell it's called) as Sonic in single segment.

I traded in my SA:DX a while ago, the reason I created the topic before I can even rent/buy it again is because I was hoping someone here could hook me up with some if possibly all of the videos from The Sonic Center invovling Sonic Adventure 1 as Sonic, so I can get the best time possible. So if anyone out there has some TSC videos please contact me:

AIM // m457r mik3
email // tri-hex@hotmail.com

If all goes well, I'm getting my used copy at Gamestop on Tuesday, and should be recording next weekend. (More info on that in the Crash 3 thread)

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DLH112

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DLH112: 2005-08-15 05:44:42 am

2005-08-15 05:43:10 am

I was doing just a fun run of this same exact thing this morning and last night. i think a good time would be about an hour, i got 1:32. That was just knowing the basic order of the levels, and barely remembering anything else about the overall route. Lots of pointless wandering around and stuff. Also, the level times were no where near my best. Just make sure to spin dash! also, make sure to do that thing in emerald coast where you spin dash up the bridge/ramp and jump to make it onto the higher bridge part, then turn left.

Yoshi348

2005-08-15 05:46:54 am

dinosaur from the past

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To get the ball rolling for some Sonic runs on SDA

If I had a nickel for everytime I've heard that...

But I still say go for it. After all, we've got people working on Doom 3 now. Perhaps Sonic too shall fall...

Sandbag29

2005-08-15 05:50:31 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

I was "thinking" of doing a run on Dreamcast, but I was just "thinking".

Perhaps I'll just improve a run. *continues thinking*

soteos

2005-08-15 06:54:25 am

Found some links from SDA.

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=other_games;action=display;num=1112711302

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=other_games;action=display;num=1114221233

http://speeddemosarchive.com/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=consoles_newer;action=display;num=1120924014

Mad_Andy

2005-08-15 07:40:56 am

Ho yea, i forgot about this game. Lol. I won't do the 3 runs i was planning (Sonic segmented, tails and super sonic) soon anyway because i need a break from video games for a while.

Brightstar

2005-08-15 08:15:11 am

I'm gonna hook my GC up tomorrow and see if I can get it all to work. However don't expect that long jump in city speedway. I for the life of me can't do it.

Also, there is a way to beat final egg in 2 minutes, but since I think it breaks the rule of secret worlds, i can't use it.

Paused

2005-08-15 12:14:10 pm

http://www.geocities.com/billybobjoe3745/sadxstrats.html

That should help. It is a little out of date however, and its missing strats for Red Mountain and Lost World. Once Ive refreshed my memory Ill be happy tro help on any of the levels, as Im sure will the rest of Sonic Center when they get here. Shame NintenDan is at Band Camp this week though.

NintenDan

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NintenDan: 2005-08-15 01:51:51 pm

2005-08-15 12:23:20 pm

I still have a little time actually (I leave for good in about 2-3 hours)

I recently acquired the world records for sonic's lost world and twinkle park, so I can share those with you

I'll try to get em up before I leave

good luck with this run. You'll need it!

EDIT: Got videos

Twinkle Park
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=TPlow

Lost World
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Lost-Worlds

Ice Cap (Dont have the record, but I'm 2nd place Cheesy

)
http://s89858904.onlinehome.us/Shadow_Wedge/Uploaded/ICS.wmv

(sorry for the low quality, I wanted to make it low so anyone could watch it)
Those are the only 3 levels I'm really good at. If you want the best strategies, you'll probably want to track down the record holder for that level. F-man is by far the greatest SADX sonic player so you'll definetly want to talk to him, though he may not reveal some of his strats.

Rolken said that videos should be up soon (10 days the latest). The only vid of those 3 that I have up at TSC is the Ice Cap one, this is the first time I'm publicly displaying my Twinkle Park and Lost World Strat, so mike89, come grab your free lunch! I don't mind putting them up though. I don't really deserve the records, I'm soso at this game

Heh. that link you posted shows all of cybrax's old secrets. Good job on digging it up! I completly forgot about this, and now I know how F-man gets 1:50 on Ice Cap! Cybrax did make a Red Mountain vid as you probably know, so hopefully it'll be up soon. And for lost world, well, I gave you a link to the vid! Smiley

Last but not least, make sure that everything you do is ok with Radix. The game is FILLED with glitches and shortcuts that you can use to your advantage, many of them include things that are not expected from the average player. I'm guessing that most of the stuff/shortcuts is ok because it doesn't seem to violate the rules. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head that violates the rules is Final Egg. Players can get as low as one minute by going through several fake walls, outside of the level, then falling back in. It would be a shame to see such a great run turned down because of a silly glitch or shortcut, so make sure everything is 100% ok with Radix or goes with the rules

I wish you much luck on this, as you'll need it! Good luck, have fun, and see you all in a week!

I still have a little time actually (I leave for good in about 2-3 hours)

I recently acquired the world records for sonic's lost world and twinkle park, so I can share those with you

I'll try to get em up before I leave

good luck with this run. You'll need it!

EDIT: Got videos

Twinkle Park
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=TPlow

Lost World
http://www.putfile.com/media.php?n=Lost-Worlds

Ice Cap (Dont have the record, but I'm 2nd place :D )
http://s89858904.onlinehome.us/Shadow_Wedge/Uploaded/ICS.wmv

(sorry for the low quality, I wanted to make it low so anyone could watch it)
Those are the only 3 levels I'm really good at. If you want the best strategies, you'll probably want to track down the record holder for that level. F-man is by far the greatest SADX sonic player so you'll definetly want to talk to him, though he may not reveal some of his strats.

Rolken said that videos should be up soon (10 days the latest). The only vid of those 3 that I have up at TSC is the Ice Cap one, this is the first time I'm publicly displaying my Twinkle Park and Lost World Strat, so mike89, come grab your free lunch! I don't mind putting them up though. I don't really deserve the records, I'm soso at this game

Heh. that link you posted shows all of cybrax's old secrets. Good job on digging it up! I completly forgot about this, and now I know how F-man gets 1:50 on Ice Cap! Cybrax did make a Red Mountain vid as you probably know, so hopefully it'll be up soon. And for lost world, well, I gave you a link to the vid! :)

Last but not least, make sure that everything you do is ok with Radix. The game is FILLED with glitches and shortcuts that you can use to your advantage, many of them include things that are not expected from the average player. I'm guessing that most of the stuff/shortcuts is ok because it doesn't seem to violate the rules. The only thing I can think of off the top of my head that violates the rules is Final Egg. Players can get as low as one minute by going through several fake walls, outside of the level, then falling back in. It would be a shame to see such a great run turned down because of a silly glitch or shortcut, so make sure everything is 100% ok with Radix or goes with the rules

I wish you much luck on this, as you'll need it! Good luck, have fun, and see you all in a week!

AngerFist

2005-08-15 03:56:35 pm

Angered Me, You have!

Shiiiit... That was awesome! Anybody who can play like that or for the newest Sonic game for GC, certainly got my vote! Shocked

Sandbag29

2005-08-15 04:12:22 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

Apparently, I'm stuck with a segmented run.

But I've never captured a video game in my life.

AngerFist

2005-08-15 04:22:48 pm

Angered Me, You have!

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Apparently, I'm stuck with a segmented run.

But I've never captured a video game in my life.

I've always recommended that whoever does a sonic run must more or the less do a multi segments run, because of the difficulty for each stage and the game itself. Hope you will find a solution for capturing your run. And maybe even reproduce those vids? 8)

Dark

2005-08-15 04:34:41 pm

Wow, totally kicked ass, dude. if only we could see the other's level time too xD

Sandbag29

2005-08-15 08:21:25 pm

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

My thoughts betry me. I'm not sure if I'm willing to do any kind of run, even if I solve the video problem.

I'll probably wait until Mr. Speedguy (whoever that person is) does the single-segment run [o o]

Don't ask me what shortcuts I found. I know nothing (haven't watched the vids yet)

But I'd like to see F-Zero machines try to go that fast.

DLH112

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DLH112: 2005-08-15 10:33:54 pm

2005-08-15 10:32:51 pm

How would you do a segmented run? I don't think that you can turn the auto save off, at least it wasn't in the options. I think it would be hard to make segments.

trihex

2005-08-15 11:54:32 pm

Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!

For the facts, I will have this run done. But it'll be simular to the current RE4 3:09:XX run, existing just to set the bar. I really can't say more until I go to Gamestop tomorrow to retrieve my copy. So once I get it, I'll have more to comment on.

Yoshi348

2005-08-16 01:17:10 am

dinosaur from the past

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How would you do a segmented run? I don't think that you can turn the auto save off, at least it wasn't in the options. I think it would be hard to make segments.

Copy the file in the system menu. Heck, that happens in other games anyway (when there isn't a copy file function built into the game).

slYnki

2005-08-16 01:23:57 am

XXY

Damn I've been waiting to see a Sonic run of some kind. I'm hoping to see a Sonic run for the Genesis. But good luck with THIS run Wink

Sandbag29

2005-08-16 09:08:53 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

There are 2 runs for the Genesis in emulator mode. One took 100,000+ re-records for the first version and 150,000+ on the second. The screen doesn't keep up either.

I was playing the game today.........sort of. Relatives stopped by and I had to tutor them on how to get to Windy Valley 8oP

trihex

2005-08-18 02:18:58 am

Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!

The strat guides are helping big time, as our the videos NintenDan and Paused! Great help! Wink

However, if someone could point out the Red Mountain shortcuts at me? As I'm still missing the suggested time in the guide Paused presented by 30 seconds. =\

Recording is this Saturday, so I don't have much time to perfect this. So far I've gotten good at:

Emerald Coast /// ~1:30:XX
Windy Valley /// ~1:40:XX
Casinopolis /// For some reason whenever I die on purpose at the pinball machine and enter the swear and I charge up, Sonic never hits the ring trail, always hits the damn enemies first. :|
Ice Cap /// intro is doing fine, need to work on the sking section.
Twinkle Park /// I ABSOLUTELY SUCK AT walking on the wall in the part with the roof, otherwise I get through this one well.
Speed Highway /// I can't manage the hard way spoken about in the guide, so I just do the easy way with spinning off the elevator thingy to the helipad.
Red Mountain /// read above.
Sky Deck /// Still working on it.
Lost World /// Still workign on it.
Final Egg /// Stil working on it.

I'll practice the rest of the levels tonight and have beta single-segment tomorrow.

The strat guides are helping big time, as our the videos NintenDan and Paused! Great help! ;) However, if someone could point out the Red Mountain shortcuts at me? As I'm still missing the suggested time in the guide Paused presented by 30 seconds. =\

Recording is this Saturday, so I don't have much time to perfect this. So far I've gotten good at:

Emerald Coast ///  ~1:30:XX 
Windy Valley /// ~1:40:XX
Casinopolis /// For some reason whenever I die on purpose at the pinball machine and enter the swear and I charge up, Sonic never hits the ring trail, always hits the damn enemies first. :| 
Ice Cap /// intro is doing fine, need to work on the sking section. 
Twinkle Park /// I ABSOLUTELY SUCK AT walking on the wall in the part with the roof, otherwise I get through this one well.
Speed Highway /// I can't manage the hard way spoken about in the guide, so I just do the easy way with spinning off the elevator thingy to the helipad.
Red Mountain /// read above.
Sky Deck /// Still working on it.
Lost World /// Still workign on it.
Final Egg /// Stil working on it.

I'll practice the rest of the levels tonight and have beta single-segment tomorrow.

Sandbag29

2005-08-18 11:32:48 am

I love YaBB 1G - SP1!

What are the WR times from the infomation everyone collected?

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Paused: 2005-08-18 11:55:47 am

2005-08-18 11:45:34 am

For Casinopolis, you have to be quite far away from the enimies in order to light speed dash up the rings. Just release the charge in the middle of thse two grid thing sticking out from the wall.

I know the basic route for Red Mountain, im just missing a shortcut from the end of area 1 that I remember seeing on the video. When i find it Ill tell you about it. Your skiping most of the room with the rising lava right?

EDIT: Ah never mind, the videos at Sonic Center are back up so you can get all the advice you need from there. well that was an unsucsessful 1st post after registering...

trihex

Radix

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Radix: 2005-08-19 04:52:21 am

2005-08-19 03:57:11 am

Yoshi's eggs are at my mercy!

Update!

Everything is going smooth, except for the snowboarding segment of Ice Cap, doing the intro shortcut for speed highway, and Final Egg. In Final Egg, once I get to the 3rd part of the level, I'm supposed to spin atop the elevator towards the green into blackness hoping to land somewhere, yet I always fall to my death, can anyone here be more specific on what to do than the TXT guide? Otherwise I'm doing fine with FInal Egg, and Sky Deck.

Radix, specifically what is illegal to do in this run in any of the following list:

1) Falling thru glitched walls to skip major sections of levels then returning back to a proper section.
2) Abusing "restart" to get to places faster.

Do note that while doing #1, Sonic is visable at all times, in case it helps to make your decision on whether it's legal to do it.

Further more, this thing will get timed in Real Time or the In-Game timers? Because for some reason whenever I hit something non-capsule to finish a level, the clock jumps 10 seconds...oh, wait, I have to do the adventure fields, so obviously it's real timed. >_>

And for those who were looking for the story, sorry, cutscenes are skippable in DX unlike the Dreamcast counterpart. So all will be skipped. As practice goes on, here's my TXT of crap to do, since it's easy for me to forget what to do for the adventure feilds:

> Skip cutscene
> BOSS - Choas 0
> Skip cutscene
> Emerald Coast
> Skip cutscene
> BOSS - Egg thingy..
> SKip cutscene
> Unlock and beat Windy Valley
> Go back to Station Square
> Go to swear, unlock shoes
> Casinopolis
> Grab Ice thingy, go to Mystic Ruins
> Ice Cap
> Kick Knuckles's weak ass
> Skip cutscene
> BOSS - Chaos 4
> Skip cutscnee
> Airplane mini game 1
> Go back to Station Square, skip 2 cutscenes
> Twinkle Park
> Go to casino, skip cutscene.
> Go to Mystic Ruins, skip cutscene.
> Red Mountain
> Airplace mini game 2 *

* I am here in praciticing.

I also plan to do Super Sonic, since it'll be so damn short, and Tails in addition to Sonic SS. So if anyone can help with the Final Egg question, please do. Wink

Update!

Everything is going smooth, except for the snowboarding segment of Ice Cap, doing the intro shortcut for speed highway, and Final Egg. In Final Egg, once I get to the 3rd part of the level, I'm supposed to spin atop the elevator towards the green into blackness hoping to land somewhere, yet I always fall to my death, can anyone here be more specific on what to do than the TXT guide? Otherwise I'm doing fine with FInal Egg, and Sky Deck.

Radix, specifically what is illegal to do in this run in any of the following list:

1) Falling thru glitched walls to skip major sections of levels then returning back to a proper section. 
2) Abusing "restart" to get to places faster.

Do note that while doing #1, Sonic is visable at all times, in case it helps to make your decision on whether it's legal to do it.

Further more, this thing will get timed in Real Time or the In-Game timers? Because for some reason whenever I hit something non-capsule to finish a level, the clock jumps 10 seconds...oh, wait, I have to do the adventure fields, so obviously it's real timed. >_>

And for those who were looking for the story, sorry, cutscenes are skippable in DX unlike the Dreamcast counterpart. So all will be skipped. As practice goes on, here's my TXT of crap to do, since it's easy for me to forget what to do for the adventure feilds:

> Skip cutscene
> BOSS - Choas 0
> Skip cutscene
> Emerald Coast
> Skip cutscene
> BOSS - Egg thingy..
> SKip cutscene
> Unlock and beat Windy Valley
> Go back to Station Square
> Go to swear, unlock shoes
> Casinopolis
> Grab Ice thingy, go to Mystic Ruins
> Ice Cap
> Kick Knuckles's weak ass
> Skip cutscene
> BOSS - Chaos 4
> Skip cutscnee
> Airplane mini game 1
> Go back to Station Square, skip 2 cutscenes
> Twinkle Park
> Go to casino, skip cutscene.
> Go to Mystic Ruins, skip cutscene.
> Red Mountain
> Airplace mini game 2 *

* I am here in praciticing.

I also plan to do Super Sonic, since it'll be so damn short, and Tails in addition to Sonic SS. So if anyone can help with the Final Egg question, please do. ;)

Radix

2005-08-19 04:56:15 am

I'm addicted to games

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1) Falling thru glitched walls to skip major sections of levels then returning back to a proper section.

If at any time you at at a position that you could not otherwise be at except by going through a wall, then no. In other words, going through the walls in mario 64 is OK because that's just some doors you're pushing through early. Going through a big chunck of wall and ending up inside the wall and coming out the other side is not.

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2) Abusing "restart" to get to places faster.

I haven't played this game in over 5 years ... remind me what restart does?

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Further more, this thing will get timed in Real Time or the In-Game timers? Because for some reason whenever I hit something non-capsule to finish a level, the clock jumps 10 seconds...oh, wait, I have to do the adventure fields, so obviously it's real timed. >_>

Yes normally a sonic would just be a sum of all levels' times, but since this has stuff to do between levels, it has to be real time. Individual levels could still use the game timer though.

BTW, "reasons" don't have gender. Therefore they don't have sex. Therefore they can't be homosexual. Therefore they can't be gay.

[quote]1) Falling thru glitched walls to skip major sections of levels then returning back to a proper section.[/quote]

If at any time you at at a position that you could not otherwise be at except by going through a wall, then no. In other words, going through the walls in mario 64 is OK because that's just some doors you're pushing through early. Going through a big chunck of wall and ending up inside the wall and coming out the other side is not.

[quote]2) Abusing "restart" to get to places faster.[/quote]

I haven't played this game in over 5 years ... remind me what restart does?

[quote]Further more, this thing will get timed in Real Time or the In-Game timers? Because for some reason whenever I hit something non-capsule to finish a level, the clock jumps 10 seconds...oh, wait, I have to do the adventure fields, so obviously it's real timed. >_>[/quote]

Yes normally a sonic would just be a sum of all levels' times, but since this has stuff to do between levels, it has to be real time. Individual levels could still use the game timer though.

BTW, "reasons" don't have gender. Therefore they don't have sex. Therefore they can't be homosexual. Therefore they can't be gay.

Paused

2005-08-19 12:10:46 pm

Restart just sends you back to either the start of the level, or to the last checkpoint hit. Its pretty much vital really.

How are the boss fights? Getting times near to TSC?

Shame about the cut sceens being cut out... Hate to say this but I was looking forward to such memorable lines as, "your going to crash ah!" and pretty much everything Eggman says. "Get alode of this" comes to mind.