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When you think GDQs, you think Super Bowl. You think World Series. You think World Cup. You think Olympics. Or at least that's how it should be. The skill and knowledge displayed at GDQs is astounding. They're just missing one element- casual friendliness.

Layman spectators' attention will be grabbed by things other than the old games- they need things like a more well-built atmosphere of hype, player introductions before the games, maybe some rivalries, and of course a more regular dose of well-known classics.

If I were to choose the schedule of a marathon, it would be nothing but Umihara Kawase and obscure PS1 and PS2 games run by CavemanDCJ. But that's not up to me. Common audience members want to see recognizable runners (called by their real names) run recognizable games. The obscure ones will only pique the curiosity of those who truly want something different. The goal of these "main event" shows is to be played in the background at family get-togethers, as well as keep fans glued to the screen and too invested in the action to change the channel. It should be like this: even if you don't know or play the sport, you should know which overpaid sex offender to care about and who's winning. As well as something for the cousins who think the sport is BORING! and wants to watch something else, hence the halftime shows featuring celebrities. This ensures anyone with a family will have it on your network even when not watching it.

Here are some suggestions: More races. Much more races. Maybe even some competitive multiplayer matches afterwards if the game's multiplayer is well-known enough. Just watch some E-Sports and you'll figure it out. Watching most GDQ runs, it's just so boring because there's no tension or struggle, just a generous estimate to beat and everyone cheering for the same guy. It would be like if the Super Bowl had one quarter and the rest of it was one-off gags about people giving demonstrations (not competitions) of old or obscure sports nobody cares about or plays anymore. Seriously, we dedicate entire runs to games that should just be footnotes.

One more thing: No RPGs. You can have one at the end. They're way too long and boring to keep most people interested, and way too RNG dependent to be good for races. Not to mention their routes are in a constant state of flux. Including runs of RPGs reeks of pandering to a dying breed of clingy, old-school gamers. It doesn't have any of that youthful energy. To make another Super Bowl comparison, it's like replacing the fourth quarter with a completely unrelated theatrical stage play. Besides, if any RPG fans want to obsess about their favorite grind feats, there's always RPG Limit Break.
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It's sure a good thing that GDQ's aren't the super bowl then huh.
Could you elaborate upon that? I would like to have discussions and discourse.
You make an inherently wrong assumption about speedrunning that far too many people make. Speedrunning is more than competition: it's about community, collaboration, research, dedication, and yes competition to an extent. Removing these other elements would kill my interest in the community and others.

First of all, GDQ doesn't search out runners, so if "celebrities" decide to not submit anything, there would be no celebrities.

Also the kind of event you are proposing would lose community support: the necessary ingredient in making GDQ's successful to begin with.

Personally I find races quite boring and seeing the same games over and over quite boring as well. GDQ is far better off appealing to a variety of audiences (thus obscure games, RPGs), but still having at least some games more people are familiar with.

And I don't see what is wrong with demonstration type runs. They teach something new about games, or teach about games that they didn't know about before. Take F-Zero GX AGDQ2014, it was a solo run but it actually got people to buy the game and caused the price of the game to rise. Same with TGM games.

What you are proposing is no simple adjustment but a completely different event that speedrunners wouldn't want.
You and I may be tired of watching the same games. Like you, I would pick games and categories that are all new, all different, all the time. However, despite how "bored of the same thing" we are, you see more attendees in the GDQ room to see the latest time saving tricks in Zelda games or getting hyped for Mario Maker races than I have for obscure runners and their meme games. Look at any run that isn't a classic franchise- the run room with the rows of chairs and the projector is practically empty. And it's not even like most people care about the glitches- they just want to sit in front of a recognizable IP.

Imagine if GDQs were on ESPN. If channel surfers saw a popular game, they would be glued to it. If they saw an unpopular one, they'd go "What's this?" and change the channel. You could also have commentators with projecting voices (another thing GDQs aren't great at) who explain the games to you, as well as the strategies. You could show instant replays as well as a post- commercial break analysis and breakdown of each level so viewers understand what the players are doing. This will keep audiences engaged. There's more variety to that than seeing a nonstop 2 hour run with no breaks. They should just cut to the interesting parts (bosses in RPGs, difficult tricks/glitches in other games) so audiences can be distracted with only the exciting parts and the other stuff. Anyone who wishes to see the whole run can watch it on the Internet or maybe rent the Best Run Collection on Netflix.

Remember, in order to get the most donation money possible, we should appeal to those who don't know or care about video games and make it as accessible as possible. Oh, and be sure to break out the violins and go whole hog on the charity angle.
Oh, and be sure to include an epic theme song and flashy logo transitions.
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TheMG2: 2016-08-27 11:33:24 am
You have to be trolling.

You completely ignored like the majority of my post.
Totally Radical Awesome Game
Now heres a good thread. More theme songs, more pyro, more me.
CavemanDCJ! My all-time favorite streamer! How's it going? You're talking to your biggest fan since routing Jade Cocoon in 2013. Never spoken to you (I kept quiet like you prefer). I want you to play whatever you want. Finish those speed games you've always wanted and don't let anyone tell you what to do. Have you got Overblood 2 working? Or what about burning discs? How can I send you stuff? You ever wanted a Japanese or PAL PS2? Great luck, man. Keep on rockin'!
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BroBuzz: 2016-08-27 01:53:27 pm
BroBuzz: 2016-08-27 01:52:22 pm
Every runner should get their own entrance music tbh.
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stealinbread: 2016-08-27 02:10:50 pm
check your pantry
Amazing. The lengths people will go to to make speedrunning into esports, without seeing what makes speedrunning awesome and different from that in the first place
Professional Race Slut
"Look at any run that isn't a classic franchise- the run room with the rows of chairs and the projector is practically empty."

Yep, that Pepsiman run at SGDQ2016 sure had an empty crowd...

https://twitter.com/spikevegeta/status/751609218994757632
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"Look at any run that isn't a classic franchise- the run room with the rows of chairs and the projector is practically empty."

Yep, that Pepsiman run at SGDQ2016 sure had an empty crowd...

https://twitter.com/spikevegeta/status/751609218994757632


Get your obscure games out of here, no one wants to watch those!
Menu Faster!
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One more thing: No RPGs. You can have one at the end. They're way too long and boring to keep most people interested, and way too RNG dependent to be good for races. Not to mention their routes are in a constant state of flux. Including runs of RPGs reeks of pandering to a dying breed of clingy, old-school gamers. It doesn't have any of that youthful energy. To make another Super Bowl comparison, it's like replacing the fourth quarter with a completely unrelated theatrical stage play. Besides, if any RPG fans want to obsess about their favorite grind feats, there's always RPG Limit Break.


Glad to see the massive generalization of RPG speed runs is alive in well in people.

Also since I'm 22 does that mean I'm not youthful?

Can't wait for generic platformer block 105 where you just jump, shoot, and repeat the same games for the 30th time.
<(^_^)>
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One more thing: No RPGs. You can have one at the end. They're way too long and boring to keep most people interested, and way too RNG dependent to be good for races. Not to mention their routes are in a constant state of flux. Including runs of RPGs reeks of pandering to a dying breed of clingy, old-school gamers. It doesn't have any of that youthful energy. To make another Super Bowl comparison, it's like replacing the fourth quarter with a completely unrelated theatrical stage play. Besides, if any RPG fans want to obsess about their favorite grind feats, there's always RPG Limit Break.


Glad to see the massive generalization of RPG speed runs is alive in well in people.

Also since I'm 22 does that mean I'm not youthful?

Can't wait for generic platformer block 105 where you just jump, shoot, and repeat the same games for the 30th time.


But Rosael, RPGLimitBreak is entirelly only a grind fest, there is nothing interesting in it /s
We haven't even gotten to the fact that this idea would take a nonstop week long event and make it like 16 hours long. It would screw up the point of GDQs, you know the charity part.

And the real name thing is funny. Do people actually use real names in e-sports? Is hungrybox actually named hungrybox?

On a side note, full on pro wrestling style entrances would be awesome.
The Pro wrestling entrances could coincide with the rivalries GDQs are going to start. Gotta have the runners you love and hate, everyone will get to hold signs during the entrances and during the races during a GDQ where every run is a race. That's what speedrunning really needs. How many GDQs until we can get pyrotechnics for runner entrances?
Crawlathon WR, get down on my level.
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The Pro wrestling entrances could coincide with the rivalries GDQs are going to start. Gotta have the runners you love and hate, everyone will get to hold signs during the entrances and during the races during a GDQ where every run is a race. That's what speedrunning really needs. How many GDQs until we can get pyrotechnics for runner entrances?


We could do pyrotechnics and music entrances, but the licenses and insurance would mean everyone has to pay $200 to attend. I'll work on making that change right now.

Just in case: THAT'S A JOKE SON, IT FLEW RIGHT BY YA!
I literally cannot wait for people who speedrun video games as a heel.
Can we have a live jazz band too
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Can we have a live jazz band too


Why have a live jazz band when you can have a mariachi band?
just( •_•)>⌐■-■ ..... (⌐■_■)wing it
Only an extra 200 to attend for pyro entrance?  Let's go
Bruh-zilian speedboy
I am willing to relearn guitar for the sake of helping the Mariachi band
Btw, I actually do kind of like the idea of entrance music, or warm up music for GDQ runners. Licensing and the costs associated would mean that copyright free music only would be used, or video game music, but I dunno. Something about that appeals to me even if it is kitschy and impractical.
you could entertain viewers by having a pcf rep try and grab donations in a giant tornado money blowing machine for the duration of a short speedrun