Sonic Maze Craze - January 10, 2023

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SDAVerification: 2023-01-10 01:28:24 pm

SDAVerification: 2023-01-03 01:22:20 pm

2023-01-03 01:20:17 pm

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Sonic Maze Craze () (flash) [Any %] [Single Segment]

Decision: Reject

Reason: As far as SDA goes, the "Out of Bounds" (OOB) and "inbounds" routes are not separated into different categories. However, going OOB in each level leaves very little gameplay left for a speedrun. The conclusion is unfortunately that this game (at least this category) is not suitable for SDA-submissions.

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SDAVerification

2023-01-03 01:20:17 pm

Run Information

Sonic Maze Craze () (flash) [Any %] [Single Segment]

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http://v.speeddemosarchive.com/SonicMazeCraze-20221213/SonicMazeCraze-22Secs-VCopy.mp4

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RockoSonicFan

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RockoSonicFan: 2023-01-03 04:20:03 pm

RockoSonicFan: 2023-01-03 04:19:45 pm

2023-01-03 03:46:14 pm

Btw I made a new submission of it in the submission form.

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Sonic Maze Craze - 22 seconds.mp4

RockoSonicFan

2023-01-04 09:05:17 am

3 seconds for Sonic Maze Craze, 'nuff said

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Sonic Maze Craze - 3 seconds.mp4

ktwo

2023-01-07 03:01:13 am

This is well played. Difficult to say if there is another second to cut in the last level or not. To the naked eye and to someone not having played this game for more than a few seconds, it looks pretty close to optimal to me.

My issue with this game is the fact that you can go "out of bounds" in every level, as demonstrated above. At first I thought this was only possible in full-screen, which would have been a questionable setting for a flash game. But it turns out the same trick also works in windowed mode. Should there then be two categories for this game? One for oob and one for inbounds? From the point of view of defining such categories, they would (with today's knowledge) be easy to separate. But the question is how many categories are needed for such a short game? Speedrunning as a whole is full of examples with speedrunners having found shortcuts by going unintended ways. This is encouraged and generally only lead to new categories if the skips are big enough.

In my opinion, you're still beating all the levels when going oob. And considering how easy it is to do, I think one even needs to be careful talking about "out of bounds" and "unintended shortcuts" in cases like this. It's probably not intended, but without knowing more about the background, it could just as well be an easter egg. I'm therefore in favor of keeping everything in one category. However, giong oob is pretty much a trivial win. I admit that it's not completely trivial to ark around the levels, but it's comparatively much easier than navigating the maze.

I'm leaning towards a reject on this one.

This is well played. Difficult to say if there is another second to cut in the last level or not. To the naked eye and to someone not having played this game for more than a few seconds, it looks pretty close to optimal to me.

My issue with this game is the fact that you can go "out of bounds" in every level, as demonstrated above. At first I thought this was only possible in full-screen, which would have been a questionable setting for a flash game. But it turns out the same trick also works in windowed mode. Should there then be two categories for this game? One for oob and one for inbounds? From the point of view of defining such categories, they would (with today's knowledge) be easy to separate. But the question is how many categories are needed for such a short game? Speedrunning as a whole is full of examples with speedrunners having found shortcuts by going unintended ways. This is encouraged and generally only lead to new categories if the skips are big enough.

In my opinion, you're still beating all the levels when going oob. And considering how easy it is to do, I think one even needs to be careful talking about "out of bounds" and "unintended shortcuts" in cases like this. It's probably not intended, but without knowing more about the background, it could just as well be an easter egg. I'm therefore in favor of keeping everything in one category. However, giong oob is pretty much a trivial win. I admit that it's not completely trivial to ark around the levels, but it's comparatively much easier than navigating the maze.

I'm leaning towards a reject on this one.

SDAVerification

2023-01-10 01:28:25 pm

Decision posted.