My feelings on The Demon Rush
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Charles Griffin's single-segment run.
Verifier Responses
There was another verifier who responded, but he just said the run was great and he really didn't have anything to say otherwise, which is why he requested his response withheld.
Decision: Accept
Reason: Yet another impressive Prime run, except this time it's single-segment.
Charles Griffin's single-segment run.
Verifier Responses
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Verifier: Okay, so I just watched Miles' 1:27
Verifier: I have to say it's very impressive that he managed to squeeze all this out of the game. The only huge timesaver I can see is the Grand Abyss dash/rolljump grapple skip and I somehow doubt he has anywhere near enough sanity or patience to pull that off in a single segment.
me: isn't that a one time try only?
Verifier: Yeah it is
Verifier: It saves about 3-4 minutes if he gets it
Verifier: But if he doesn't then it's a run ender
Verifier: and the trick is insanely difficult in the first place
Verifier: so I don't blame him for skipping it
Verifier: he completely demolished all the bosses with the exception of DS3, but that's fair because that fight is so dependant on screw attack luck
Verifier: Adult Chykka fight was particularly impressive, I had no idea you could bug the first phase of the fight out like that
Verifier: and single SA killing EI3 is just wow
Verifier: Definite accept
Verifier: I have to say it's very impressive that he managed to squeeze all this out of the game. The only huge timesaver I can see is the Grand Abyss dash/rolljump grapple skip and I somehow doubt he has anywhere near enough sanity or patience to pull that off in a single segment.
me: isn't that a one time try only?
Verifier: Yeah it is
Verifier: It saves about 3-4 minutes if he gets it
Verifier: But if he doesn't then it's a run ender
Verifier: and the trick is insanely difficult in the first place
Verifier: so I don't blame him for skipping it
Verifier: he completely demolished all the bosses with the exception of DS3, but that's fair because that fight is so dependant on screw attack luck
Verifier: Adult Chykka fight was particularly impressive, I had no idea you could bug the first phase of the fight out like that
Verifier: and single SA killing EI3 is just wow
Verifier: Definite accept
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It's true, "secret worlds" shouldn't be a separate category...
In fact, the current "secret worlds" run the most impressive metroid prime 2 run in my opinion.
Before I verified the run, I wanted to see the "non-secret worlds" run again, in order to be able to compare, and even if it's not the quicker way to clear the game, I still being amazed... I've no objection as regards keeping it on speeddemosarchive.
I'm glad to see an "any %" run using secret worlds.
Let's talk about the verification :
Video/Audio : OK
Cheating : I didn't know the "missile bug" at the beginning, and i didn't know most of the glitches, but I don't want to start a new game just to verify. I think that everything is legit.
Gameplay : ...
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... OH MY GOD !!!
It has at least a segmented run gameplay quality... There are some mistakes, and the worst of them -in the fortress, before picking up the screw attack- is forgivable. And... the fight against the emperor is better than every other one on SDA !!
I just noticed that the player took an useless energy tank, but it's forgivable too, avoiding quadraxis without the dark suit would have been risky otherwise (only 150 health points left)
The overall is well thought, audacious, tricky, glitchy... Runner -I don't know who you are-, would you marry me ? just kidding
ACCEPT !
In fact, the current "secret worlds" run the most impressive metroid prime 2 run in my opinion.
Before I verified the run, I wanted to see the "non-secret worlds" run again, in order to be able to compare, and even if it's not the quicker way to clear the game, I still being amazed... I've no objection as regards keeping it on speeddemosarchive.
I'm glad to see an "any %" run using secret worlds.
Let's talk about the verification :
Video/Audio : OK
Cheating : I didn't know the "missile bug" at the beginning, and i didn't know most of the glitches, but I don't want to start a new game just to verify. I think that everything is legit.
Gameplay : ...
...
... OH MY GOD !!!
It has at least a segmented run gameplay quality... There are some mistakes, and the worst of them -in the fortress, before picking up the screw attack- is forgivable. And... the fight against the emperor is better than every other one on SDA !!
I just noticed that the player took an useless energy tank, but it's forgivable too, avoiding quadraxis without the dark suit would have been risky otherwise (only 150 health points left)
The overall is well thought, audacious, tricky, glitchy... Runner -I don't know who you are-, would you marry me ? just kidding
ACCEPT !
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i watched a version miles uploaded at m2k2. if necessary i can watch your version too to make sure the quality didn't break or something.
comments:
running this game is not an easy thing to do. it's tough to imagine how much worse it is to run it in a single sitting. frankly, it's amazing how simple everything looks in this run, because much of it is very difficult. i guess that just speaks to how good this run actually is.
naturally, there are a few "low" points. getting to and from the spinners in vault took a few tries (getting to them is pretty difficult though). the bsj to enter the secret world for the annihilator skip also took a couple tries. sacred path and entering the secret world after snatching sanctuary's energy had slight hiccups. finally, like usual, dark samus was a jerk and didn't accept her death quietly. while that last one did cost significant time (probably around a minute), it is literally the last thing in the run that can possibly go wrong, and is very tricky to do well at all. combining everything else i mentioned probably totals another 20 seconds. in a single segment of a very difficult game, 80 seconds is peanuts.
beyond those (and i admit that some of them are pushing it), the rest of the run is incredibly consistent. the route in particular is very well thought out. i really liked the decision to ignore the main entrance to sanctuary. both the chykka strategy and execution (both forms) were awesome, as was the spider guardian fight (phase 3 was sick). watch station/access were both done in one try. the annihilator skip wallcrawl went incredibly fast, with miles laughing in the face of those aether jumps. the dvd change after getting the light suit was very smooth, i couldn't even tell where the transition was. the bsj atop the halfpipe in agon, and glitching through the gate afterward, are both very high pressure tricks and went flawlessly. finally, the emperor ing fight goes so fast that it barely even exists.
it's only a matter of time before the echoes page is monopolized. easy accept.
comments:
running this game is not an easy thing to do. it's tough to imagine how much worse it is to run it in a single sitting. frankly, it's amazing how simple everything looks in this run, because much of it is very difficult. i guess that just speaks to how good this run actually is.
naturally, there are a few "low" points. getting to and from the spinners in vault took a few tries (getting to them is pretty difficult though). the bsj to enter the secret world for the annihilator skip also took a couple tries. sacred path and entering the secret world after snatching sanctuary's energy had slight hiccups. finally, like usual, dark samus was a jerk and didn't accept her death quietly. while that last one did cost significant time (probably around a minute), it is literally the last thing in the run that can possibly go wrong, and is very tricky to do well at all. combining everything else i mentioned probably totals another 20 seconds. in a single segment of a very difficult game, 80 seconds is peanuts.
beyond those (and i admit that some of them are pushing it), the rest of the run is incredibly consistent. the route in particular is very well thought out. i really liked the decision to ignore the main entrance to sanctuary. both the chykka strategy and execution (both forms) were awesome, as was the spider guardian fight (phase 3 was sick). watch station/access were both done in one try. the annihilator skip wallcrawl went incredibly fast, with miles laughing in the face of those aether jumps. the dvd change after getting the light suit was very smooth, i couldn't even tell where the transition was. the bsj atop the halfpipe in agon, and glitching through the gate afterward, are both very high pressure tricks and went flawlessly. finally, the emperor ing fight goes so fast that it barely even exists.
it's only a matter of time before the echoes page is monopolized. easy accept.
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this looked like a pretty good run overall. most of the major tricks are pulled off in 1 try and there's a fair bit of very daring tricks all over the run. there was some time lost from a few tricks missed on the first try and errors like getting hit by stuff or bosses being dicks but i'd say that's about ~1 or 1.5 minutes lost across 2 hours of gameplay and that's a pretty good ratio. the very last boss could have been faster but that one requires some luck. at least the fight was decent and the SA did some damage and the previous boss was aced in 1 cycle.
the video and audio quality is very good and i didn't see any cheating anywhere. everything was done within the game's possibilities, including the crazy OoB traveling which is at one point in a spot that could kill the run if you get stuck in a wall (i saw that once in a previous failed attempt on a stream)
the video and audio quality is very good and i didn't see any cheating anywhere. everything was done within the game's possibilities, including the crazy OoB traveling which is at one point in a spot that could kill the run if you get stuck in a wall (i saw that once in a previous failed attempt on a stream)
There was another verifier who responded, but he just said the run was great and he really didn't have anything to say otherwise, which is why he requested his response withheld.
Decision: Accept
Reason: Yet another impressive Prime run, except this time it's single-segment.
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